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Old December 10th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #1
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Pet 168/175 SMK load in LC case for Rem 700 PSS

I am trying to develop some loads for a newly acquired Rem 700 PSS (26" barrel).

I have LC cases, RL-15 and IMR-4895 powders, and CCI 34 primers. What is the ideal velocity out of the 26" barrel???? I have loads for the M1A, but imagine will have slight difference in bolt action with longer barrel.

Just trying to get a start load to work up. Thanks again.

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Old December 10th, 2009, 01:03 PM   #2
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For what it's worth, my rem 700 likes a powder charge that's .4gr heavier than the charge for my M1-A. They both use LC cases and Br-2 primers.
Rem 700 is:
175MK
44.4gr Varget

M1-A is:
168MK
44gr Varget

Neither load shows excessive pressure signs and shoot great out of their respective rifles.

M1-A load is going 2567fps
Don't know what the Rem 700 load is going.

As usual start with the start load in whatever load book you're using and work your way up untill you get the accuracy/velocity you're looking for.
Good luck.
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Well, I would start off with the same load that you run in your M1A, the speed will pick up some and so will the recoil, thats to be expected in a bolt rifle.

44+ grs of Varget in a Lc case in a hot loading, I ran 43grs in a Lc case over the chrono and found M/V was almost at 2800fps, thats stiff with any 168 pill nevermind a 175.

With both loads your still looking for about 2600fps with both the 168 and the 175 pills. Why, push them harder and beat yourself and the rifle up? If it was ME once I hit 2600 or close too it with the 175's I would use the same load data for the 168's and call it a day.

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Old December 10th, 2009, 04:20 PM   #4
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Thanks Phil. I have nice loads for the M1A.

175 gr SMK
41.1 gr IMR-4895
FC NATO Case

168 gr Nosler CC
41.3 gr IMR-4895
FC NATO Case

OAL 2.82"
CCI #34 Primer

Would be nice to have some info on what velocity range will mimick the above laods using RL-15, since it is somewhat more available.

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My load data is old (memory too) I think the original M118LR was loaded with 42grs of Re-15 or there about, I would start with about 40 and start working up the loads with the chrono.

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I don't have a PSS but I guess my SPS is close. I tinkered with my loads quite a bit when I first got it and then discovered it shot great with Federal GMM - so I tried to duplicate it.



Bullet: Sierra 168 gr. HPBT MatchKing
Powder: Hodgdon Varget 43.0 grs.
Primer: CCI-BR2
Case: Federal
LOAL: 2.800 (2.230 base to ogive with Stoney Point)

#1 2668.05
#2 2645.89
#3 2666.88
#4 2639.55
#5 2636.10
#6 2626.37
#7 2654.60
#8 2655.18
#9 2650.53
#10 2653.43

Avg. Velocity: 2649 fps
Spread: 41.68 fps
Std Dev: 13.07

My Remington barrel has a long throat and the most accurate load used a Hornady 168 gr BTHP - but it wouldn't fit the magazine when loaded out to decrease bullet jump.

Bullet: Hornady 168 gr. HPBT
Powder: Hodgdon Varget 43.5 grs.
Primer: CCI-BR2
Case: Winchester
LOAL: 2.925 (2.325 Base to Ogive with Stoney Point)
Velocity: 2527.28 fps
Comments: Jam length is 2.340 Base to Ogive with this bullet. This seating depth used for 0.015 bullet jump. Slow but very accurate. Five shot group measured 0.392 @100 yards.

My Remington is a good gun but my Savage 10FLP will shoot rings around it! This group was shot using similar components to what you are using.



I was trying to duplicate M118 Long Range. I haven't had a chance to try this load in my Remington.

Bullet: Sierra 175 gr. HPBT
Powder: Alliant Reloader 15 43.0 grs.
Primer: CCI-200
Case: IMI
LOAL: 2.805 (2.230 Base to Ogive with Stoney Point)
Comments: Best 5 shot group 0.436 inches.

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I see your a lefty!!!!!

Thanks so much for the detailed data and pictures of those mean looking bolt guns. Those are super nice!!!!!!

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Thought I would post a picture of my Rem 700 PSS. Sporting a SS 10x42M/IBA scope mount with a Harris bipod. Can't wait to group this rifle and go through load development.

Got it because I missed a sniper competition at RBGC. Kind of geared toward service rifle folks, but they had moving targets at 300 yds (friend and foe) and all you could stabilize the rifle with was field gear (no sandbags/bipods). Looked like serious fun times!!!!!! I didn't have a rifle and scope combo. Bummer....shooting sports are not for spectators.


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i was shooting a 168gr hornady hpbt with 42.5 grains of RL15 in nosler brass at 2.80" in my SPS-V with a 5R stock on it.

i am currently using 42.0gr in my M1A with mil brass at 2.80" its a bit hotter than my R700 load but it shoots great in my M1A Scout.

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Lots of great information on "snipershide" web for 308 bolt gun
as well as a reloading section with loads of information........

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In my 700 VLS I use 43.2 grains of IMR 4895, 168 SMK in a Federal GMM case with Remington LRP. Round is 2.825" overall length. My Remington loves it - 5 shots into 1/2" to 5/8" from a bag with a 10X Bushnell Elite scope.

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Hey pbcaster45, where did you get that olive green spider-web stock and what kind is it (HS Precision or what). That didn't come on the SPS did it? Really looks NICE. Great set-up. Looks like the stock from the LTR.

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I am trying to develop some loads for a newly acquired Rem 700 PSS (26" barrel).

I have LC cases, RL-15 and IMR-4895 powders, and CCI 34 primers. What is the ideal velocity out of the 26" barrel???? I have loads for the M1A, but imagine will have slight difference in bolt action with longer barrel.

Just trying to get a start load to work up. Thanks again.
Actual M118LR ammo out of my 26" FN SPR chronys at 2718fps. I load M118LR brass with 42.0gr of IMR4895 with 168gr bullets. With the 175SMK, I would drop back nearly 1.0gr with the same brass.

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The stock on the Remington is an H-S Precision PSV097 Pro-Series 2000 Sendaro Varmint. I got it from Stocky's. I didn't fire a single round through the rifle with that crappy rubber stock that came with the rifle. And that hype about H-S Precision Stocks maintaining their zero when removed and replaced (using a torque wrench) is true! I removed mine to do some cleaning and when I put it back on (60 inch pounds on the stock screws) it was dead on at 100 yards.

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...-700-HS/Detail

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