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Old September 6th, 2007, 07:30 PM   #1
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Surplus ammo at the gun show

Hello everybody,

I'm going to the Media, Ohio gun show this Saturday to hopfully get some surplus 7.62 x 51 ammo for my M1A. I'm new to this so I don't know what brands of ammo to look for. I was reading this post http://www.m14firinglineforum.com/up...ad.php?t=23308 but it doesn't say which ammo is good or not.

Any suggestions on what brands I should look for first, or in what order the ammo is best to worst?

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Any suggestions on what brands I should look for first, or in what order the ammuntion is best to worst?
M-14 Tom,

Just my 2 cents.....

* M118LR Lake City surplus ammuntion from 2003 (LC-XM118LR PD). The first string was a 188-9X, 2nd group a 200-13X at 100Yd.

* M118 Lake City surplus ammuntion from 1985 (LC-85E135-016). The first string was a 194-9X, 2nd group a 199-12X at 100Yd.

* Portuguese m/963 surplus ammuntion from 1979 (lot BF 79-70). The first string was a 195-5X, 2nd group a 199-10X at 100Yd.


* M852 Lake City surplus ammuntion from 1985 (LC-85B183-008). First string was a 194-9X, 2nd group a 198-13X.

* Radway Green surplus ammuntion from 1985 (Lot A4/1818 16.9.85). The first string was a 198-8X, 2nd group a 198-9X at 100Yd.

* Santa Barbra surplus ammuntion from 1980. The first string was a 186-5X, 2nd group at a little better with a 197-14X at 100Yd.

* Argentine surplus ammuntion from 1983 (Lot 06 03-5). The first string was a 193-5X, 2nd group at a little better with a 197-8X at 100Yd.

* Greek surplus ammuntion from 1980 (Lot 21-80). The first string was a 195-8X, 2nd group a 197-6X at 100Yd.

* German DM 41, military surplus ammuntion from 1960 using (lot MS 134-60). The first string was a 193-5X, 2nd grouping a 197-6X.

* Australian ADI surplus ammuntion from 1988 (lot AFF 24-8-88), The first string was a 194-5X, 2nd group a 196-8X at 100Yd.

* Radway Green surplus ammuntion from 1990 (Lot L2A2 12.04.90). The first string was a 180-6X, 2nd group a 195-9X at 100Yd.

* South African surplus ammuntion from 1980 R1M1(lot 205WA 11/80), The first string was a 193-3X, 2nd group a 195-5X at 100Yd.


* Malaysian surplus ammuntion from 1983 (Lot 10-83) delinked. The first string was a 189-4X, 2nd group a 194-9X at 100Yd.


* Venezuelan surplus ammuntion from 1989 HS nny (lot PPU 8909 ), The first string was a 192-9X, 2nd group a 194-2X at 100Yd.**

* Portuguese m/963 surplus ammuntion from 1978 (lot FNM78-23). The first string was a 186-4X, 2nd group a 190-4X at 100Yd.

* Hirtenberger surplus ammuntion from 1978 HS HP. The first string was a 188-5X, 2nd group a 190-3X at 100Yd.

* Belgium surplus ammuntion from 1977 (lot 12 FNB 77). The first string was a 188-4X, 2nd group a 189-7X at 100Yd.

* South African surplus ammuntion from 1981 R1M1(lot B07/81), The first string was a 179-5X, 2nd group a 189-1X at 100Yd.

* Indonesian surplus ammuntion from 1985 (lot 1/85), The first string was a 186-1X, 2nd group a 187-1X at 100Yd.

* Pakistan military surplus ammuntion from 1980 using (lot WT 12/80). Headstamp POF 80 L2A2. My best score was only a 180-0X.

Royal Ordnance (Indian), stamp OFV, I would avoid it like the Black plague!

The 10 Golden Rules of Ammuntion;

1) You can never have too much Ammuntion on hand. 1k rounds per battle rifle is a good minimum to start with (fubar).
2) Supplies of good surplus run out before you know it, and usually when you're running low on Ammuntion so buy plenty while its available.
3) When in doubt about how much Ammuntion you should buy, refer to rule #1.
4) Ammuntion is meant to be shot, so shoot often.
5) Because of rule #4, Ammuntion must be replenished often as well.
6) When replenishing supply of Ammuntionrefer to rules #1 through #3.
7) You must buy at least twice as much Ammuntion as you shoot (fubar).
8: Always store Ammuntion in a cool dry place (TEA).
9) If you don't have room in your house to store Ammuntion per rule #8, build a bunker or a cellar in your back yard for storing Ammuntion (TEA).
10) Friends don't let friends buy Indian surplus Ammuntion (TEA). Or Never buy surplus Ammuntion from a country where you wouldn't drink the water (midrat).

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Old September 7th, 2007, 09:15 AM   #3
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Anything designated NATO-spec M-59 or M-80.

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Ammo update...

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to update you on what I found. At the show, there were only two dealers with ammo, down from the usual 6-8. I got lucky (I think?) and found a dealer with some SA ammo for $60 a battle pack (.43 cents a round). They brought two cases and I was able to buy a case and half. The other half was already gone 15 minutes into the show. They also had some of that M80 Lithuanian stuff but it was way overpriced compared to what I've seen on here (.70 cents a round). The other dealer had no 7.62/.308 at all.

However, both dealers said that their suppliers told them ammo was going up 15% next month and another 15% in January, but you guys probably knew that.

More bad news, the dealers said that the Ammunition Store is pretty much out of business due to some probs with their FFL. Which sucks because they're located just a few minutes from my house.

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Old September 9th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #5
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Other news. There was a brown paper in the ammo box for my SA .308 ammo that I think is the lot number. Here's what it says:

Round 7.62 x 51 Ball R1M1
243AO03/81

OK, so how bad is this stuff?

How are you guys on ammo for other guns? I also picked up some UMC .223 ammo for $60 for 200 rounds (.30 cents a round). Any news on this stuff?

And one more. I bought some Golden Tiger 7.62 x 39 for an AK I have. Any feedback on this stuff? This stuff was an impulse buy, but it looked good in hand.

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Old September 9th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #6
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Tom,

thanks for the update.

the UMC-Rem .223 is pretty good for "plain jane" shooting. don't expect "match" accuracy. all in all, not bad.

Hey, thanks for the tip on the No. Canton Ammunitionstore.com. there has been rumors flying around about them, but nothing solid.

Too bad--I used to walk in there all the time at lunch, since I work in Canton!

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Old September 9th, 2007, 07:21 PM   #7
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Ammunitionstore.com and then some

Yeah, it stinks that's for sure. I live in Canton and work in Akron, so I drive by their building on Rt. 77 twice a day. I was shooting regularly three plus years ago and would stop in there every few weeks. Since then I got busy building a car and spent most of my time (and money!) on the car.

Now I'm getting back into shooting and have found my favorite ammo store is out of business, half of the gun shops in our area are closed or have stopped selling guns, and ammo prices are through the roof.

It took me a long time to save up to buy an M1A and now I can't afford to shoot it! Aarghhhh!

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Don't loose heart, tom!

I'll see if I can still pester Pat at Pat's Reloading over in Massillon at lunchtime for good ammo bargains!

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Thanks Woodsman, keep me posted!

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Exclamation Golden Tiger>>>>>>>

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to update you on what I found. At the show, there were only two dealers with ammo, down from the usual 6-8. I got lucky (I think?) and found a dealer with some SA ammo for $60 a battle pack (.43 cents a round). They brought two cases and I was able to buy a case and half. The other half was already gone 15 minutes into the show. They also had some of that M80 Lithuanian stuff but it was way overpriced compared to what I've seen on here (.70 cents a round). The other dealer had no 7.62/.308 at all.

However, both dealers said that their suppliers told them ammo was going up 15% next month and another 15% in January, but you guys probably knew that.

More bad news, the dealers said that the Ammunition Store is pretty much out of business due to some probs with their FFL. Which sucks because they're located just a few minutes from my house.
If I understand correctly you're kinda new, welcome aboard! You may or may not know it but that same battle pack went for $25 a year ago. I'm lucky I bought a bunch back then. The price is going to keep climbing so don't put off purchasing more if you can afford it.

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Just a bit of advice to never have to worry about quality ammuntion. Begin to reload. I have purchased several types of ammunition for my M1A and all are horrible compared to some quality handloads that you can easily make yourself. Factory ammunition just plain sucks unless all you do is plinking and that gets pretty old quick. Get some LC brass and some IMR4895, some 168 gr. Sierra or Hornady BTHP match bullets, CCI #34 primers and get after it. After all is said and done the rounds wil cost you around 55 cents each and a little elbow grease, but they will make shooting a hell of a lot more fun as you can place the bullet holes on top of one another with a few months of practice. I don't care how good you are, factory ammo will never provide that kind of accuracy. Good luck!!!!

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