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Old May 17th, 2017, 09:23 AM   #1
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Corrosive ammo

All things being equal I would obviously shoot the non-corrosive stuff but I'm not real worried myself about shooting it.

Knowing exactly why it's corrosive and how it attacks metal, I'm satisfied with the cleaning method of hot, soapy water followed by a near boiling water rinse. I then hit it with compressed air. And then there's the black powder solvent method...

I saw a note in one of the stickies that said "We do not sell corrosive ammo". If I could buy corrosive ammo for cheap I'd eat it up. I'm just wondering if anyone else shares this view?

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M14's FAL's and the G3 weren't designed to shoot corrosive ammo.

AK's were...

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Old May 17th, 2017, 09:35 AM   #3
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What about your gas system?


(I mean your rifle's gas system.)


I presume you are discussing M14-types? Doesn't corrosive ammo create issues with the gas parts? Which in my mind means you have to separate all those parts to clean each time and that means extra rounds next time to re-foul / re-seat the system? Am I over thinking again?

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Old May 17th, 2017, 10:34 AM   #5
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When I finish shooting corrosive ammunition in my garand or 98k I fill up the bathtub with hot water and scrub all the metal parts with soapy water. Then dry and finish with u.s. army WW2 bore cleaner. Never had a problem with rust or pitting.

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If I could buy corrosive ammo for cheap I'd eat it up. I'm just wondering if anyone else shares this view?
Since your posting this in the M14 Forum, you must be only talking about M14 type rifles. I would never run corrosive ammunition through my M14/M1A unless the world had come to an end five years ago. It's like diving a Dino Ferrari, Lamborghini, or a McLaren on regular gasoline ...it's like owning a 500,000$ car and only buying the cheap crap for it!

Now how does that old saying go now? ...

In my K98 I shoot only corrosive ammunition through it from 1938. It was made for it back then.

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When I finish shooting corrosive ammunition in my garand or 98k I fill up the bathtub with hot water and scrub all the metal parts with soapy water. Then dry and finish with u.s. army WW2 bore cleaner. Never had a problem with rust or pitting.
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You don't need to do all that if your using ACTUAL WWII bore cleaner.

That formulation was made to clean corrosive primer residue. Thats all it is.
NaCl, just regular table salt.

Just disassemble the Garand and clean it with the WWII stuff.

Another tip is that even if you use corrosive ammo, as long as the rifle is stored in a moisture free place it wont corrode. I had a Garand and large supply of corrosive Korean KA ammo.

I'd shoot it then put it away in a safe with a moisture absorber.
I only cleaned it after 2 or 3 range trips.

Not a spot of rust or corrosion after 3 years and about 1500 rounds of KA
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To corrode it requires moistrure

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IMHO, there is no real reason to shoot corrosive ammo in any of my semi-auto rifles. Especially since lately there is no shortage of quality surplus ammo at better prices than we were seeing several years ago.

I will not hesitate to shoot corrosive ammo in my old bolt action beaters, but not in semi-auto rifles that cost between $1000-2500.00 each.

This forum is especially good in that members who find a good price/deal on quality surplus ammo are quick to post the vendor and prices here.

My wife doesn't really appreciate the rapid posting of good ammo prices here as much as I do!

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I spent a week shooting S&B surplus (corrosive) through my M1A about 10 or 11 years ago.

We quit shooting about dark, I'd start on cleaning the rifle, then eat supper once it was clean/lubed and reassembled (rifle first, I can eat in the dark).

I did not remove the gas cylinder from the barrel, just removed the plug and piston.

I used patches soaked in a black powder cleaner called Black Off to run through the barrel, gas cylinder, into the plug and piston and then wipe down the bolt, receiver and trigger housing.

Then I'd spray everything off with carb. cleaner, then I'd spray everything down with Rem-Oil, then I'd do the greasing of the rails/bolt/op rod and oiling with Mobil 1 of the other parts.

No issues with rust, in spite of the rainy days/nights and the rifle ran all day the next day with no issues (we were shooting around 200 rounds a day).

I have over a 1000 rounds of that S&B ammo left. I should go ahead and shoot it up sometime so the kids don't get a hold of it some day and screw up one of their rifles.

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Its been said, I would never shoot corrosive ammo in a three thousand dollar M14, never!

Go find a cheap bolt action which is easy to clean and go to town. Save the good stuff for your M14, it will thank you.

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I shoot plenty of WWII ammo in my M1s. Never had a problem with rust or pitting. A good cleaning and they are fine.
I even get to clean the M1s in the house, not so with the black powder weapons. I have to admit they can be a bit stinky.

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NaCl, just regular table salt.
No, Potassium Chloride (KCl), almost the exact same stuff, even tastes the same, but different.

In any case corrosive 7.62mm is not common, so I just don't go looking for it . . .

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All things being equal I would obviously shoot the non-corrosive stuff but I'm not real worried myself about shooting it.

Knowing exactly why it's corrosive and how it attacks metal, I'm satisfied with the cleaning method of hot, soapy water followed by a near boiling water rinse. I then hit it with compressed air. And then there's the black powder solvent method...

I saw a note in one of the stickies that said "We do not sell corrosive ammo". If I could buy corrosive ammo for cheap I'd eat it up. I'm just wondering if anyone else shares this view?
depending upon when that yugo x51 was made..it may not be corrosive...

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Old May 17th, 2017, 06:57 PM   #14
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I have never fired corrosive ammoes out of my Garand or M1a. However, I had a Klinton era MAK 90 and that's all I ever shot out of it. Lot's of it. The cheapest chi-com stuff I could get. I cleaned it with windshield washer solvent to cut the salts and then a second 'normal' cleaning after every outing. Never a problem. My son has it now and it still looks and runs great. I also shoot a lot of black powder and use the washer solvent on that too. Works great. The high alcohol content makes it dry quick and clean. Try it.

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Even ol Hoppes #9 works on the salts. On the rare occasions that I shoot corrosive, not in a gas gun, I clean as usual using #9 and just be sure its clean and oiled before putting away. It pays to check them once in a while as well, like blackpowder guns.

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