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Old April 19th, 2017, 06:36 PM   #1
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Nosler's 7.62x51 nato load data

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Old April 19th, 2017, 07:25 PM   #2
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Boy, those are some weak loads they list.

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or you guys shoot some awfully hot one's tflorman

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Old April 19th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #4
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I see why it seemed that way at first.

They recommend a COAL at 2.775 vs the usual 2.8 for the 168 Custom Comp and they claim their brass has a 47.1 Grain water capacity. Also, they are testing from a 18" Pac Nor barrel, so there is probably a 75 to 100 FPS different coming out of a typical M14 with 22" barrel. The speeds they listed seemed pretty anemic until saw their testing criteria.

All that said... the usual 41.5 grains of IMR 4895 or H4895 or 42.0 grains of 4064 in LC brass is hardly on the hot side.

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Old April 19th, 2017, 08:32 PM   #5
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I see why it seemed that way at first.

They recommend a COAL at 2.775 vs the usual 2.8 for the 168 Custom Comp and they claim their brass has a 47.1 Grain water capacity. Also, they are testing from a 18" Pac Nor barrel, so there is probably a 75 to 100 FPS different coming out of a typical M14 with 22" barrel. The speeds they listed seemed pretty anemic until saw their testing criteria.

All that said... the usual 41.5 grains of IMR 4895 or H4895 or 42.0 grains of 4064 in LC brass is hardly on the hot side.
yes, thanks. If you look at the WW748 data you will see why I chose a 42.0 load of it for my 'last load' throwaway brass... Can use it for my hornady 150 gr hpbt all the way up to the 'hot loaded' sierra 175 gr hpbt... Bit over charge on their data but works in my rifle (41.5 shot great btw)

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The 175 grain bullet loads shows Winchester 760 powder. That used to be "too slow" for the M1A. Is it now okay?

I'll admit, during my early days (way, way pre internet) when I was cracking operator rods with IMR4350 I tried some W760 and didn't see enough accuracy to make me keep using it (still have that piece of a can out in the shed.)

After all, the page says 7.62X51, not .308 Winchester.

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Also, they are testing from a 18" Pac Nor barrel....
Yes and no... they use the 18" barrel (for some reason) with the <145grn and 168grn bullets, but a 24" barrel with the other bullet weights? Odd methodology, for sure. And any 7.62mm load data that excludes IMR4895 isn't complete in any measure.

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I'm really happy they use a 18'' barrel for their test since my M1a is a 18.5'' barrel!

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The 175 grain bullet loads shows Winchester 760 powder. That used to be "too slow" for the M1A. Is it now okay?

I'll admit, during my early days (way, way pre internet) when I was cracking operator rods with IMR4350 I tried some W760 and didn't see enough accuracy to make me keep using it (still have that piece of a can out in the shed.)

After all, the page says 7.62X51, not .308 Winchester.

I would not use W760 in my M1A

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IMR 4895, 4064, 3031. Maybe RL15. Why would you use anything else.

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Something seems off on that data. It showed 45 hrs of varget just alittle over 2600 fps with a 168gr. I'm getting 2660 with 41.5

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IMR 4895, 4064, 3031.... ...Why would you use anything else.
My thoughts exactly. Not that there aren't other powders out there that wouldn't work well, but I like simplicity. I use those 3 powders to load every rifle cartridge I have on the bench with the notable exception of 5.56mm.

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Guy's I have decided to stick with H4895 for my M1A

And WW748 for my 'end of life loads' with Hornady 150 grain hpbt's


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Not sure why they are calling it 7.62x51 NATO. There isn't one NATO load listed. They aren't even using cases intended for NATO cartridges.

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