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Old March 5th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #1
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powder scales upgrade

I've been using a 505 scale and a trickler for most of my like. Time for an upgrade. Before dropping any dollars on this I would like to ask a few questions of people that have used the new powder scales/dispensers.

1. Does anyone here have any experience with the RCBS charge master light or similar product?

2. For years I have kept my sizing dies at a particular setting. Different rifles use different head space growth/resizing when fired. In the past I made shims from machinery engine shim kits to make adjustments without changing my die, such as this rifle used the die, this one uses the die with a .005 shim ect. Redding has made a shell holder set in increments of .002 for five pieces allowing me to get rid of the shims, anyone used these yet?

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Old March 5th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #2
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I currently use both items you mention, and I love them both!
The Charge master is accurate and fast (especially after tweaking the program to speed it up), and is easy to clean when done for the loading day. Well Well worth the money!
The Redding Competition shellholders are awesome. You set up your sizing die using the +.010" shellholder and never touch it again. After you figure out which rifle needs which shellholder for proper headspace, you write the shellholder # on your load tag, and it will always be repeatable. Get them both....you'll wish you've bought them sooner!

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Old March 5th, 2017, 04:08 PM   #3
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I use a Dillon 650 for my large volume pistol cal loading. For my rifle loading I use a Foster Co Ax and a Chargemaster combo. I use a second electronic scale to occasionally double check the charges dropped from the Chargemaster. I've heard some complain about them not giving repeatable charges, and some have had problems with the charges progressively "walking", but I have not had any of those symptoms with mine, in several years of use. I think that if I were going for benchrest ammo loading, I'd still use a trickler, but for the type of shooting I'm doing, that level of perfection isn't required.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 04:37 PM   #4
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I can answer question #1 for you as I own a Charge Master.

Unit works great under the right conditions, and is much faster then weighing out each charge with a balance beam scale. I load all my varmint ammo with this. Calibration is fast and easy.

I have found that the Charge Master ( speaking only for the one I own) is sensitive to florescent lighting that contained a ballast and will constantly throw a charge that is a tenth or 2 overweight. The unit also started to wonder with the charge weights as well. I would double check a random powder charge after dispensing 20 or so in the casings and found them to be over or under by .3 grains. My issues with the Charge Master were rectified by using LED lighting around and over my reloading bench.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 04:39 PM   #5
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The Redding shell holders are good for rifles that have longer headspace, or dies that set the shoulder back too far. You will notice that they are marked +.002, +.004 etc.

Love my Chargemaster.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 04:42 PM   #6
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I do not have a charge Master but I do have a Lyman DPS3 and I love it. You need to keep those electronic dispensers away from fluorescent lighting as stated above and keep the static charge down and they will work flawlessly.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 05:38 PM   #7
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This is what I use and I love it.

https://www.amazon.com/FX-120i-Preci.../dp/B00GP0IMPO

My bad saw your were wanting an automatic.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 06:02 PM   #8
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The Charge master is accurate and fast (especially after tweaking the program to speed it up), and is easy to clean when done for the loading day. Well Well worth the money!
That is my experience as well. I have LED lighting in my reload room and have no problems at all. Making the unit perfectly level helps a lot to make accurate loadings.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 06:26 PM   #9
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I also use the Charge Master.

Calibrate before each use, using the weights provided and then verify the calibration with a set of small weights in grains from Midway or someone similar.

Was not aware of the fluorescent light issue, I just went from incandescent to LED and skipped the fluorescent stage.

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Old March 5th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #10
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I have a rcbs charge master on a custom steel pedestal to the right of my bench and couldn't live without it. It is very sensitive but accurate also. It requires some time to learn and trust. Don't rush to remove the pan. It will stop at your charge then tell you your load count. Let the screen clear to be sure nothing else falls. Rcbs had a great rebate last year, not sure now.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 09:39 PM   #11
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RCBS Chargemaster

I bought a RCBS chargemaster last year when they were on sale. I have been very pleased with it. I have a flourescant light about 8 ft away, but seldom use that light. LED's closer. I have only had over charges thrown a handful of times over several hundred rounds. Couldn't be more pleased.

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Old March 8th, 2017, 11:03 PM   #12
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I have my first scale, a old Herter's scale that I use every now and then, I also have a RCBS 505 but I use my RCBS 304 more then any of them. the 304 has been out of production for years but I think it is the best beam scale ever made. I like it for weighing bullets, with the dial on the front you can zero it easier other scales.

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Old March 9th, 2017, 02:15 AM   #13
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I like the charge master as well. I had an old Redding scale for years then a 505 before the CM. I should have bought the CM sooner. Good Luck.

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Old March 9th, 2017, 02:21 AM   #14
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Lyman DPS3 works great. I have LED lighting in my work area.



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Old March 9th, 2017, 06:30 AM   #15
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Redding has made a shell holder set in increments of .002


These work great - as I load differently for each rifle.

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