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This is a discussion on Thoughts on a new after market magazine? within the Ammunition forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Originally Posted by Killashrub Look into aluminum 20 rounders if you want to sell something. Aluminum and steel together is a bad idea Dielectric corrosion ...


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Old August 30th, 2016, 07:09 AM   #46
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Look into aluminum 20 rounders if you want to sell something.
Aluminum and steel together is a bad idea
Dielectric corrosion is always a bit of an issue.
A bit.
The less the better
Especially if you're storing it mag in.

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Old August 30th, 2016, 07:21 AM   #47
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Csspecs is saving the VEPR line of rifles from the crap plastic mags
I can bear witness to the quality and function of their product and outstanding workmanship as I have a few steel mags for my VEPR 12 .

By all means go for it Csspecs ,,,// after you sell me the long awaited steel 54R mags first

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Old August 30th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #48
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I like the look and the features. I like steel. A slightly curved design to match the cartridge's taper is no problem for me. The fit and function of a magazine under all conditions is paramount and essential for any self-loading firearm. A faulty magazine can yield a rifle useless or turn it into a club. I'd try one or more. Price is also an important consideration for me. CSSPECS has a good reputation and I would like to see what they can do with a M14 / M1A magazine. We may need all of the mag sources that we can muster! Seems that often Checkmate cannot keep up with demand. Plastic is not an option for me.

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Old August 30th, 2016, 09:46 AM   #49
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I would be interested in seeing another supplier of a good quality M14 magazine at a competitive price. My only comment is to make certain they work before they're marketed. I would suggest looking at two relatively recent efforts to produce new aftermarket FAL magazines on The Fal Files - the Moses Mag (polymer) and DSA's steel mags.

The Moses Mags went through several pre-production versions and at least two molds before they got it right. The manufacturer made certain that his mags fit and functioned as close to perfectly as possible before he went to market, and he has sold and continues to sell many of them.

DSA, on the other hand, rushed their 20-round steel mag to market before it was ready, IMHO. They looked good and were priced competitively. The only problem with them was that they didn't work. They had people return them - not for replacement, but for tweaking. They were able to get some of them to work - at the factory, anyway. Most everyone simply gave up on them, and refuse to even try them again. For some reason, DSA's 30-round mags seem to work reliably. I don't know why they can make a functioning 30-round mag and not a 20-rounder, but they don't seem to be able to. DSA is the 600-lb gorilla in the FAL world, so perhaps they simply figured that they didn't have to make a product that functioned properly.

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Old September 24th, 2016, 05:45 PM   #50
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I figured I'd mention that the tooling came back from heat treatment and we are looking to make some samples in the next couple weeks.

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I figured I'd mention that the tooling came back from heat treatment and we are looking to make some samples in the next couple weeks.
Cool! Then comes the fun part, testing!!
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Old September 29th, 2016, 03:19 AM   #52
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I figured I'd mention that the tooling came back from heat treatment and we are looking to make some samples in the next couple weeks.
Ok since shipping will be cheap for you you can send me a few Mags to test out.

I will put them through the wringer and report back to you.

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Old September 29th, 2016, 03:40 AM   #53
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I would be interested. they must be reliable & lock in correctly. let us know of any progress.

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Old September 29th, 2016, 05:12 AM   #54
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What's the internal dimensions on these, how long can we load?

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Old December 17th, 2016, 05:48 PM   #55
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Just wanted to update that this project is far from dead. We should be testing a sample in a few days.

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Old December 17th, 2016, 08:18 PM   #56
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Just wanted to update that this project is far from dead. We should be testing a sample in a few days.
Maybe I over looked it but what price range are you shooting for? That will be a deal maker or breaker. Will they be parkerized or shiny like the one in the pictures? I'm all for another reliable mag provider, hell I would even buy a few 30's if they worked. Please keep us posted and take some pictures of the mag in a rifle if you get a chance.

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Old December 17th, 2016, 08:33 PM   #57
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I missed this thread when it originally appeared. I'm interested. More options is always a good thing in my opinion.

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Old December 20th, 2016, 03:30 PM   #58
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Pricing is still floating.. The samples have been fairly easy to put together.

Here is a test firing video from today. We have a couple more videos but its on mark's phone and I don't have it handy to pull the videos off.

https://youtu.be/NDsBj-5sXvs

We don't have the retaining plate made that holds the floorplate on. So I have a place holder to mock up its thickness and some duct tape on the bottom to hold the floor plate on to get the testing going.. This is mostly to test the feed lips and lockup points. We still need to make an adjustment to the follower as it is not activating the bolt stop fully.

We are mostly happy with the results but did note a couple of needed adjustments.

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Old December 20th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #59
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When you get some ready you should offer a group buy for the forum,for cheap. We would be the best advertisement you could have. 98% of google searches of M1A or M14 leads you here.

Just my 2 cents

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Old December 20th, 2016, 04:42 PM   #60
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I dig it. I would much prefer a 20rd but I like the curve. All for new stuff that works.

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