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Old July 31st, 2016, 11:39 AM   #31
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A thing of beauty for sure. I'd like a few of them, when they become available.

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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:44 PM   #32
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Does look nice. Hopefully one day an out of state friend will have one and I can try it when I go back to America on vacation, where you can actually have magazines.
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Old August 2nd, 2016, 07:06 PM   #33
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Old August 2nd, 2016, 07:18 PM   #34
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I understand that CMI has a pretty good hold of the mark, but they have not really made anything different in a long time.. The design of M-14 magazines has not really changed in 60 years.
I believe there is a significant number of people that buy the M1A because they have not changed from their original design. For me it is nostalgia for the weapon I used in the Army. For that reason I would continue to use the original magazine design.

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Old August 2nd, 2016, 08:41 PM   #35
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I am all about function.....If you really make a better mouse trap they will sell...They look very nice and would be very interested to try them out.....You know what happens if you dont make them____Nothing.... Go for it and work out the bugs that come with every new design and you will do good

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Old August 2nd, 2016, 08:48 PM   #36
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Look into aluminum 20 rounders if you want to sell something.

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Old August 4th, 2016, 11:02 AM   #37
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Look into aluminum 20 rounders if you want to sell something.
I don't work with aluminum. It requires a different method of forming that does not work with short line processing. And it also requires a different type of welder than what we have.

With the way the M14 holds the magazine, it really has to be made out of something abrasion resistant or it won't last. And I have yet to see a aluminum projection weld that was all that strong, since the M14 rear contact point pretty much requires a projection weld on the rear contact point due to the limited area there is little that can be done.

I don't see a several ounce savings being enough of a selling feature.

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Old August 4th, 2016, 02:45 PM   #38
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I like the look, but I'd only try it out for a 20 rounder. As has been stated, 30 rounders are going to cause problems with different shooting positions.

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Old August 4th, 2016, 04:43 PM   #39
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I used Csspecs magazines in a Vepr 12 I had. They were very well made and functioned flawlessly, which is not easy to do with those ruskie shotties so I'm pretty confident that if they come out with an M14 mag that it will be right. IIRC they solicited a lot of customer feedback during R&D. The problem I see is they weren't cheap, and if they can't compete on price then I'm afraid it would be a no-go.
That said, it would be great to have another quality supplier of M14 stuff on the market - that would only be good for us so best wishes for success!

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Old August 7th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #40
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Talking CSSPEC Mags

I would love to see CSSPEC mags for the M14/M1A. I have several of their mags for my Saiga 12s and love them. That being said, my preference is also for the straight 20/25 round mag body. I do LOVE the look of the follower in the mock-up! As I am currently in a mag buying mood for my new Scout, I would love an additional supplier of GOOD Mags.

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Old August 29th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #41
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I would love to see CSSPEC mags for the M14/M1A. I have several of their mags for my Saiga 12s and love them. That being said, my preference is also for the straight 20/25 round mag body. I do LOVE the look of the follower in the mock-up! As I am currently in a mag buying mood for my new Scout, I would love an additional supplier of GOOD Mags.
I asked the tooling guy if a straight 20 would be acceptable and he looked back like someone told him his baby was ugly.. We are talking about a very slight curve that helps feed, this is a premium feature not a cost savings.

Many here are looking at the way magazines have been made and are convinced it is the only right way. I look at an M14 magazine and I see it as the cheapest magazine they could come up with back in the 50s.. It is made to be run progressive, meaning that completed parts rolled off the end of the line to be welded.. Many items we make go to trim dies and get run through polish wheels to remove galling, it costs a little more but they function better.

We are fairly confident that our tooling guy can make a straight body magazine because he has done a couple already. He just wants to release the best item first and then release the cheaper alternatives down the road.
I don't see being cheaper than CMI at any point.

Understand that our capacity per month is actually very limited. We can make about 2000-3000 magazines a month, maybe 5,000 with perfect tooling. So regardless of likes or dislikes we are always going to have a very limited presents in this market.

My take on the input so far is that most of you are not sure if you will buy.. Yet no one has stated any major revulsion to the design, so I'll take it as a somewhat positive. I figure most here are very calculating and are waiting to see how this turns out.

Tooling guy started on tooling today, he is not sure how long it will take as some of the designs are still being worked on. We adjust minor components to match results rather than shoe horning the results to match the paper design.

We will post any questions we have as we go.. I think a few prototypes will have people more interested than just my idle talk.

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Old August 29th, 2016, 09:54 PM   #42
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I would continue on, because if the mag works and works well and the Price is right people will buy them.

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Old August 29th, 2016, 10:07 PM   #43
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I'll try anything once. Twice if it works well.

Even CMI mags are finicky snapping into my Scout sometimes.

If they rock in easily, feed reliably, and send rounds where I need them, when I need them, I'll buy a bunch.

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Now I need to find new ammo pouches to carry this plus a suspenders to carry this new combat weight.

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Old August 30th, 2016, 04:44 AM   #45
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Go to 44mag.com and buy the CMI mags for the M14. Buy once cry once and the prices of the quality mags is good. I made the mistake back during the first panic from the Clinton AWB and bought cheap gun show mags. It was money wasted. When it comes to mags and boots quality is the best economy.

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