Welcome on board
CoachUSMC2818,
Welcome on board
CoachUSMC2818, pull up an old
ammo crate and sit awhile. This here Gun Board is a great place for information on M14/M1A Rifles and
Ammo. . Again welcome aboard and have yourself a great weekend Sir.
A quick run down on some of the different surplus
ammo manufactures out there for the M14/M1A...
Argentine, good when found, stamped
FM or
SF or
FLB.
Australian ADI (Australian Defense Industries)/Aussie, good, stamped
AFF or
MF.
Belgium, it's alright, stamped
FN
German, stamped
MEN and
DAG, real good, cost is high when you can find it
Hirtenberger, real good, going up in price when you can find it, stamped
H or
HP
Israel Military Industries surplus, head stamped IMI, S, SA, SB, TA, TZ & TZZ. I have no info on how it compares with the group above through my NM M1A.
Lake City Army Ammunition, very, very, good, cost is high, NATO cross stamp,
LC
Malaysian, good, hard to find, stamped
MAL
Pakistan, not known yet, stamped
POF
Portuguese, good, stamped
BF, second in line is
FNM
Radway
Green (British), very good, going up in price, NATO cross stamp,
RG
Santa Barbra (Spain), very good hard to find, stamped
SB / 7.62x51
South African, all right, stamped
R1M1
Sweden, good, rare to find, stamped
Amf 070
Venezuelan, real good, when you can find it, stamped
nny 7.62 MM **
Royal Ordnance (Indian), stamp
OFV, I would avoid it like the Black plague!
(**Manufactured by Yugoslavia)
Just my opinion of course...
The 10 Golden Rules of
Ammo:
1) You can never have too much
ammo on hand. 1k rounds per battle rifle is a good minimum to start with (fubar).
2) Supplies of good surplus run out before you know it, and usually when you're running low on
ammo so buy plenty while its available.
3) When in doubt about how much
ammo you should buy, refer to rule #1.
4)
Ammo is meant to be shot, so shoot often.
5) Because of rule #4,
ammo must be replenished often as well.
6) When replenishing supply of
ammo, refer to rules #1 through #3.
7) You must buy at least twice as much
ammo as you shoot (fubar).
8: Always store
ammo in a cool dry place (TEA).
9) If you don't have room in your house to store
ammo per rule #8, build a bunker or a cellar in your back yard for storing
ammo (TEA).
10) Friends don't let friends buy Indian surplus
ammo (TEA). Or Never buy surplus
ammo from a country where you wouldn't drink the water (midrat).
You may have seen each week posting in the New Mexico Range Report above, where I have been using a different surplus ammunitions suppler from around the world each week to test. To recap the last eight visits to the rifle range last year;
* M118LR Lake City surplus
ammo from 2003 (LC-XM118LR PD). The first string was a 188-9X, 2nd group a 200-13X at 100Yd.
* M118 Lake City surplus
ammo from 1985 (LC-85E135-016). The first string was a 194-9X, 2nd group a 199-12X at 100Yd.
* Santa Barbra surplus
ammo from 1980. The first string was a 186-5X, 2nd group at a little better with a 197-14X at 100Yd.
* Radway Green surplus
ammo from 1988 (Lot A4/1818 23.5.888). The first string was a 192-5X, 2nd group a 196-9X at 100Yd.
* Australian ADI surplus
ammo from 1988 (lot AFF 24-8-88), The first string was a 194-5X, 2nd group a 196-8X at 100Yd.
* Venezuelan surplus
ammo from 1989 HS nny (lot PPU 8909 ), The first string was a 192-9X, 2nd group a 194-2X at 100Yd.**
* Portuguese m/963 surplus
ammo from 1978 (lot FNM78-23). The first string was a 181-0X, 2nd group a 190-4X at 100Yd.
* Hirtenberger surplus
ammo from 1978 HS HP. The first string was a 188-5X, 2nd group a 190-3X at 100Yd.
* Belgium surplus
ammo from 1977 Lot 12 FNB 77. The first string was a 188-4X, 2nd group a 189-7X at 100Yd.
* South African surplus
ammo from 1981 R1M1(lot B07/81), The first string was a 179-5X, 2nd group a 189-1X at 100Yd.
(**Manufactured by Yugoslavia)
Try out this nice little back corner of the InterNet for good surplus Ammo. With 17 different suppliers and 12 countries to choose from.
The cheapest 7.62x51 Surplus on the Internet
XXIV Corps USARMY-1
DMZ 70-72