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Old January 25th, 2006, 01:18 AM   #1
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Xm118lrpd ?

I jusy ordered some (What I thought was) Lake City XM118LR from Sportsmen's Guide
What I received is XM118LRPD
Does the PD stand for Pulled Down?
The brass all has LC on it but it all looks old and tarnished
Did I get burned?
These came packaged in 20 round boxes with the following printed on it
20 CRTG. 7.62MM
LONG RANGE M118
Beneath that in what looks like a rubber stamp:
XM118LRPD

plain brown boxes with line drawing of a cartridge on the side

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=233127

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Old January 25th, 2006, 04:52 AM   #2
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Military uses collet pullers so the bullet would not mike out round and marks from the pulling should be evident. I can not tell without seeing the bullet.Reboxing of pull down ammo in other than TALON marked boxes is something I am unaware of.

Anything you get from them bears watching in my opinion.

I would not worry about tarnished brass.

Chances are its product development from Federal.

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Old January 25th, 2006, 06:14 AM   #3
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Any and all SGs' products are suspect. Pays to be alert with them.

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Bigchoad,

I too ordered the same from SG, it came and I get the best MOA from it than any other surplus ammo on the market today. I'm interested in what the PD stands for as well.

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Old January 25th, 2006, 04:58 PM   #5
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This might help you out a little bit. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=259364

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Old January 25th, 2006, 05:48 PM   #6
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Parts of that thread over there are true and p[arts are not. The surplus ammo issue for the US was largely ended with the destruction of Millions of rounds of small arms ammo along with countless other war reserve materiel under treaty with the Russians.

The current crop of surplus is not surplus but new production ammo that does not meet GI specs. Also not meeting GI specs is the periodic runs of QC ammo made at various times during a run. Federal being Federal has discovered there is no prohibition against running a few extra and selling it. Also no problem using the excess to needs components that are not to spec.

As long as the price is right, it is no worse than a lot of the surplus I have bought and is all US made with good brass.

I still say the markings are due to Govt influence so they can tell its not m118 ammo.

XM is experimental model 118 Long Range Product Development thus not militiary ammo and is legal for sale, not being govt property. The boxes and grades vary like any surplus.

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Old January 25th, 2006, 06:01 PM   #7
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companies response else where

I ll put the link here in a bit,,,, ATK is the parent company for Federal, TGZ is the the gun zone.;;;;http://www.thegunzone.com/556xm.html


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Old January 29th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #8
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Xm118 Lr Pd

A friend of mine and myself used this ammo over the weekend to shoot at 100 and 300 yards. It is by far the most accurate ammunition I have ever fired from an M14 type weapon.

We had one ragged hole groups at 100 yards with a scoped LRB with a heavy Krieger barrel and 2 -3 inch groups at 300 yards.

This ammo is the most consistent and most accurate I've ever used. Looks to be about 44 grains of RE15 and a Federal Match primer. Would be interested in any info about the components if anyone knows for sure.

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