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Old April 13th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #1
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Reloading For My New M1A

I've been doing a lot of reading for reloading of the M1A. And I cant seem to find any solid answers for my questions, they are all over the place. I bought my M1A for a couple reason; 1, I wanted to own a semi auto and I hate the ARs, M1As just have a cool factor I think and I wanted to get into some longer range shooting. Now Ive got just about everything but bullets for reloading. i really want to get a good bullet that isnt too hard to come by right now. For me its either the Berger VLD Target 168gr With the .473 BC And occasionally the 155gr SMK Palmas and 175g SMKs. But mainly the bergers. So my question is will either of those be better than the other in my Loaded M1A? Max distance is 1000 yards, but that wont happen for some time, (my longest shot is 200yrds) But i will be practicing a lot. So if we want a more realistic range for a noobie shooter like me, lets go with...600yards? Any and all opinions are welcome. Yes i am well aware that this question has been asked before and i could probably find it on the interwebs if i tried hard enough to find it. Im not that great at looking up stuff so that is why i am here.

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Old April 13th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #2
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Information on this site will lead you to believe that 168's are the common go-to bullet for anything 600 or closer and 175's for anything farther out

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Old April 13th, 2014, 10:28 PM   #3
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Firstly congrats on the M1A. Secondly, please learn to search - doing so will allow you to learn so much more than simply asking a question and will be less irritating to others. Thirdly some answers:

The classic "M14 Match Grade" ammo is a 168g SMK over 41.5g of H4895 in a Lake City case measuring 2.800" from nose to tail and ignited by a Winchester (or similar) primer.

Many folks will substitute FGMM for the above load

The military load is something like a 149g pill - Federal XM80C is a reasonably priced commercially available ammo that is very similar to the military load

Now for the rub - all rifles are different. Rifles with consecutive serial numbers may shoot quite different so YOU have to find a load for YOUR rifle. I'd try FGMM to establish a baseline and go from there.

Reloading for the M14 is different than for a bolt gun - please read enough to avoid injury to yourself or others.

Shooting to 1000 requires a good rifle, glass, ammo and shooter. Six hundred is also a long way. Practice a LOT at shorter distances and gradually reach out - it will be easier and more fun that way :-)

Finally, have fun ( oh, and learn to search stuff on the internet - waaaaay cooler ! )

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Berger is an expensive bullet to be throwing downrange out of an M1A but they will definitely work. Personally I wait until the pulled bullets or blems are available online and buy a couple thousand at a wack. Sierras, noslers, hornadies they are out there if you keep your eyes peeled. My favorite is the 175 sierra matchking since it is widely available and you don't have to load it very hot to make it fly a long ways.

Loading isn't complicated. Full length resize your brass with some shoulder bump (I use small base dies), trim to 2.0", prime it making sure that the primer is seated below the case head rather than flush or protruding. Then add your powder and stick a bullet on top to magazine length.

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Berger is an expensive bullet to be throwing downrange out of an M1A but they will definitely work. Personally I wait until the pulled bullets or blems are available online and buy a couple thousand at a wack. Sierras, noslers, hornadies they are out there if you keep your eyes peeled. My favorite is the 175 sierra matchking since it is widely available and you don't have to load it very hot to make it fly a long ways.

Loading isn't complicated. Full length resize your brass with some shoulder bump (I use small base dies), trim to 2.0", prime it making sure that the primer is seated below the case head rather than flush or protruding. Then add your powder and stick a bullet on top to magazine length.
Where do you find the blems? I only get the ones i listed cause thats what we get where i work :/

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Berger is an expensive bullet to be throwing downrange out of an M1A but they will definitely work. Personally I wait until the pulled bullets or blems are available online and buy a couple thousand at a wack. Sierras, noslers, hornadies they are out there if you keep your eyes peeled. My favorite is the 175 sierra matchking since it is widely available and you don't have to load it very hot to make it fly a long ways.

Loading isn't complicated. Full length resize your brass with some shoulder bump (I use small base dies), trim to 2.0", prime it making sure that the primer is seated below the case head rather than flush or protruding. Then add your powder and stick a bullet on top to magazine length.
I was reading that the 175s might be too much for a stock M1A, is that true? or does it just boil down to how fast you are trying to push them?

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I am using Stripper clips for reloading because it makes very fast, easy, and safe reload. You have to some practice with it and after that you will find it is easier to reload your M1A with stripper clips. You reload your empty rifle into a ready to fire rifle in under 10 seconds with the help of stripper clips and a Springfield.

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The problem you are going to run into is as you stated getting bullets but you may also have trouble with powder and primers, I usually get my supplies from online retailers but getting say IMR 4895 and large rifle primers are far and few in-between, my go to powder has been the 4895 and I have used RL-15 with a Nosler 168 CC or a Hornady 147 3037 bulk from Wideners and primers are getting pretty tough to find so a suggestion would be go with a known recipe for the M1A and for me thats 42.5 g of IMR 48895 with a 168 Nosler CC and WLR primer but mine is a Scout config so you will have to work up a load, there are tons of recipes for there M1A out there but finding supplies are tough.

And for what it's worth I have recently jumped on the AR bandwagon with a 16" LE Tactical Spikes and bullets are pretty easily had as I already have lots of powder

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Lots of folks have good success with 41.5 gn of either 4895, 168 gn SMK, LC brass, CCI mil. spec. 7.62 primers. These components are common and usually fairly easy to find. Shoot a bunch of these and then experiment. You need to learn how to shoot the M1A well before trying to split hairs with your loads. I can hold the ten ring consistantly at 600 with this load.

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I am using Stripper clips for reloading because it makes very fast, easy, and safe reload. You have to some practice with it and after that you will find it is easier to reload your M1A with stripper clips. You reload your empty rifle into a ready to fire rifle in under 10 seconds with the help of stripper clips and a Springfield.
Wow. Reloading as in loading your own ammo.

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I am using Stripper clips for reloading because it makes very fast, easy, and safe reload. You have to some practice with it and after that you will find it is easier to reload your M1A with stripper clips. You reload your empty rifle into a ready to fire rifle in under 10 seconds with the help of stripper clips and a Springfield.
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Make sure you try a couple of the Bergers before buying a lot of them. They tend to be longer than average bullets, forcing you to compress the powder in order to get them to fit in a magazine.

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The Hornady reloading manual has separate sections for .308 and 30-06 semi auto service rifles. It's worth the bucks.

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I am using Stripper clips for reloading because it makes very fast, easy, and safe reload. You have to some practice with it and after that you will find it is easier to reload your M1A with stripper clips. You reload your empty rifle into a ready to fire rifle in under 10 seconds with the help of stripper clips and a Springfield.
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I was reading that the 175s might be too much for a stock M1A, is that true? or does it just boil down to how fast you are trying to push them?
175 SMK are fine that is all I use, I sent you a PM where to get some.

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