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Old September 17th, 2013, 08:31 AM   #1
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Anyone using H4895 for 223 loads?

With my 308 I pretty much fell into a great shooting load as 41.5 in LC brass was the first one I tried and it runs 100% but in 223 it has been less than cooperative. I am using RP brass, mag primers and 77 noslers @ 2.245" and have loaded from 22.7-23.5. It seems like there might be a load just below 22.7, and around 23.2, but it's hard to tell.

Anyone have a go to load for say service rifle?

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Old September 17th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #2
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With a 69 SMK 24.5 grs 4895 hammers.

In a 223 there is no reason why any of the 4895 powders, that is IMR, AA2495, and H4895 will not produce outstanding accuracy. Lots of shooters have used IMR4895/H4895 in match loads with the 223 across all bullet weights.

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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:19 PM   #3
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I agree...24.5 H4895 with 69 SMK is THE load. I use Rem 7 1/2 primers or CCI BR.

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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #4
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Anyone have a go to load for say service rifle?
Not 4895 variety. 23.3 of IMR 8208, LC case, CCI 450, pushing Nosler 77 Moly coated at COL of 2.250. Ammo cranked out through Dillon 650.

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Old September 17th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #5
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23 gr even in a rp case with a cci primer and a 77 gr custom comp shoots great in my rock river

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Old September 17th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #6
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When I first started reloading I used H4895 for 223. 4895 is the most versitile powder for rifle. The 223 load worked well for 69 grain SMK but Varget worked a lot better so I went to it.

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Old September 17th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #7
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Been using 24gr's under a 68/69gr pill for a while, it has always performed better than the nut on the trigger.

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Old September 17th, 2013, 07:42 PM   #8
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23 gr even in a rp case with a cci primer and a 77 gr custom comp shoots great in my rock river
What COAL? Seated long or short?

Quickload says 23.2 should get me about 2600 which is the bare minimum I'm after for an 18" barrel and less than 55k PSI.

I'm wondering if I should just grow some hair on my balls and do a workup to around 24.2 to see if there is a high node that is eluding me.

edit: yeah I like varget and RL15 for heavies too but I am near out of both and have 18lbs of H4895 sitting here. My m1a loves it so if I can make the ARs love it I am set...

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Old September 18th, 2013, 11:13 AM   #9
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I'm curious why you are using magnum primers. You shouldn't need them with 4895, and I wonder if that might not be your problem. I'd try a standard primer and work up again, see if that doesn't make the ammo settle down and behave.

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Old September 18th, 2013, 11:18 AM   #10
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Tag for Reference.. Thanks for the info Gents!

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Old September 18th, 2013, 11:53 AM   #11
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Unfortunately these are all the primers I have so I gotta make do until people calm down and varget + cci BRs are once again available.

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Old September 18th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #12
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In my Krieger barreled uppers 23gr over a 68, 75 or 80 Hornady shot much better than any other load. Significantly better. I had the same velocity of RE15 loads and I got my last points using H4895. Metered just fine out of a Dillon 550, just load and practice. Practice is what wins points.

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Old September 19th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #13
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23.4 grns of 4895 pushing a 77grain nosler and same for 80grn nosler. Legged out w that load. Its a great powder for the AR in 223, don't know why more people aren't using it.

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