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Old April 29th, 2013, 10:52 AM   #16
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We have lots of firearms on the shelves and nothing but empty space that once held ammo.

But, there was one of 'those' people trying to sell 5.56 for a mere 1.50/rd in the want ads this weekend. and saw a can of 54R for a paltry $350. For real!

Things will turn back around though, but I don't think we'll see the prices of old, meaning early '08 prices.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 10:57 AM   #17
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Really?

How can anybody really doubt that the A#1 problem is...

Fellow Shooters Buying Up Any Ammo They Find!

Regardless of---whether they currently need it or even have a gun that shoots that caliber!

There are posts and posts and posts here where guys are doing exactly that...buying whenever and wherever they find ammo...

And...It's hard to mesh THAT with a Conspiracy Theory that the shortage of ammo is Intended by the 'Gubmint' to Stop Americans from Shooting! ...when the sale of guns hugely increased, when Ammo Manufacturers are producing at 100% Capacity, yet Ammo continues to fly off the shelves bought by guys just like you and me!

And...as this Thread is in...the 'Ammunition' Forum...the 'Politics' had better end quickly!



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That's me, then again I'm limited to one box(either 20 or 50 count) of .308 or .40 per week around here so I'm not taking very much out of circulation. The only ammo around here with any real presence is shotgun.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 11:01 AM   #18
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Old April 29th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #19
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I can't wait for the flood of used equipment that will come when guys are trying to liquidate what they bought during the panic. Oh and they surely will be taking a loss if they want to move it.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #20
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Regardless of who or what is causing the ammo shortage, it has not eased up one bit. Sorry CAVMAN but, some of it for certain calibers IS because of contracts that the FEDS want fulfilled, and also part of it is because of private sector buying.

Just because some of you found a few rounds at your local GS, it ain't happening any time soon.

Look at the online suppliers of ammo. I have about a dozen of them bookmarked.

Take Midway USA for example. The probably carry more different types of ammo in any given caliber than just about anyone else.

Their selection is HUGE.

Go to their site and browse through handgun ammo. 62 PAGES OF IT.

You have to get to PAGE 59 before you get to ammo that is NOT "OUT OF STOCK: NO BACKORDER".

The rest of the pages are "special order 30 days".

Now given the above….what do you think is going on? Ahh, but don't take MY word for it, go check them out yourself.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:01 PM   #21
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Powder and primers and mags back in stock at my local gun shop. Though I don't know how anyone can say the gov. buying BILLIONS of bullets has not contributed to this shortage.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:15 PM   #22
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I've been able to keep just about everything in stock this entire time, it's just extremely hard to do it. Try getting up every morning at 3am to get on distributors websites to snatch things up as they put their new shipments in inventory. I'll admit my .223 is going 15$ a box, but my dealer cost on them is now upwards of 11$ a box. I do have a ton of M80 ball still that nobody has really touched since this all started. I even have every type of primer and just got 40lbs of 4895.

Everything is out there, you just need to look a little harder, and sometimes pay a little more. But it IS there.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:31 PM   #23
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Oh it's definitely not over. This scenario just played out in real time less than 1/2 an hour ago.
Date line Maine 3 pm eastern.

I get a phone call from my friend in Arizona, he says powder Valley has Tula primers in stock. I am driving down the highway in maine, pull over, turn on four way flashers and pick up phone to call powder Valley. A nice woman answered the phone and says how may I help you. I say I would like to place an order for some in stock Tula primers. She says online orders take precedent over phone calls so I should go to the internet and place my order. She stated she has had over 300 orders in the last 35 minutes. I hang up the phone pick up my tablet go to powder Valley and wouldn't you know it all the primers are out of stock. Total elapsed time from friend phone call to checking tablet 30 minutes.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #24
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There were CMI 20 round mags at the local gun show this weekend for $33.00. I also saw some for $40 and $42. $33 isn't terrible if you need/want them now. 7.62x51 was there but yea, still about $1.00/round.....$12 to $15 for a 50 round box of .22LR...things do seem to be easing a bit. My local gun range has been running orientations right and left so people are still buying weapons and those weapons need ammo.

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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:10 PM   #25
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Regardless of who or what is causing the ammo shortage, it has not eased up one bit. Sorry CAVMAN but, some of it for certain calibers IS because of contracts that the FEDS want fulfilled, and also part of it is because of private sector buying.
Who/what are you referring to as 'private sector buying'? Just Us?

Because as I have said a number of times here...
"We have met the enemy and he is us!"

I have read and read and read statements by the Big Dealers who say over and over again:
*Ammo IS in fact coming through the distribution system.
*Ammo is being Bought by Retail Customers as fast as it is being distributed.
*Just because Federal Agencies placed large orders...it does not mean all that ammo is being Delivered to the Feds! The Orders were multi-agency, multi-year orders fixing the cost for the goverment for several years to come...and according to industry insiders...is absolutely not the primary reason for ammo shortages...
It's almost entirely...what's the title of this thread?...Oh, yeah...

IT"S THE PANIC !!!

Sorry, but the argument here is just all circular...

Ammo is un-available>so when we find it, we buy it All, every caliber, even if we don't own a gun shooting that caliber, as much as we can, clean off the shelves, stock-pile it, trade-it for other ammo, guns, stuff...>Ammo is un-available>Must be a Conspiracy!>I Must Buy More!

Read all the different posts on all the different threads here and on other forums...
Same-same---"I just found .308 at Joe's! I bought all I could, then told all my friends to do the same! Damn, they're out already!? What's going on!? Something Sinister must be at work!"



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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:17 PM   #26
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Got some Viht n135 powder from Grafs today with a date code of 2-11-2010 on the bottles.
Do they age that stuff typically like a Kentucky bourbon?

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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #27
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Read the disclaimer from DILLON's---

http://www.dillonprecision.com/

Must be the gubmint buying up Reloaders, Reloading Equipment, Parts, etc...

bassards...



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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:33 PM   #28
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More kookiness...

http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtrib...e-from-the-ap/

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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #29
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Hornady...more wackos:

http://www.guns.com/2013/02/15/horna...ammo-shortage/

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Old April 29th, 2013, 01:53 PM   #30
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"The panic is starting to fizzle...."



No it's not.

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