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Old March 13th, 2015, 11:37 PM   #61
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Just a heads up, a NYS Assemblyman is attempting to move legislation to regulate ammunition components and force ammo registration for hand loaders. Its NYS Assembly Bill #A00270


Reason #7529 to leave NYS when feasible.

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Old March 14th, 2015, 06:07 AM   #62
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Very informative!! Very helpful guidance for anyone thinking about reloading! I'll be using this!!

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Old March 14th, 2015, 07:06 AM   #63
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Just a heads up, a NYS Assemblyman is attempting to move legislation to regulate ammunition components and force ammo registration for hand loaders. Its NYS Assembly Bill #A00270





Reason #7529 to leave NYS when feasible.

Can't catch a break here. I will disregard any new legislation.


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Old May 18th, 2015, 08:29 AM   #64
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Answers a lot of my questions, too. I have an RCBS Summit and die sets and shell holders for 308 and 233 on the way. I have quite a bit of accessories yet to buy. This helps tremendously.

1. The RCBS web site recommends the Speer Reloading Manual. You prefer the Sierra. This was my main question while browsing these posts. Do you still recommend the Sierra manual?

2. Does the manual need to match the brand of bullets? Ie., Speer manual for Speer's bullets, Sierra's manual for Sierra bullets, etc.?



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Old May 19th, 2015, 04:24 PM   #65
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Until someone writes a better manual, I still prefer the Sierra loading manual except with using specialty bullets from oddball makers, or from a powder manufacturer not listed in the Sierra manual, which is pretty rare for me. For standard weight bullets that are listed in the Sierra manual, you'll probably never see an issue with shooting another brand of bullet in the same configuration and weight.

Also, try not to get too hung up on small variations of bullet weight between brands in the same type of bullet.
Examples:
Sierra 77gr HPBT Match Kings or Hornady 75gr HPBT Match
Sierra 69gr HPBT Match Kings or Hornady 68gr HPBT Match
30 cal 150gr FMJ/BT or 30 cal 147gr FMJ/BT.
30 cal 168gr HPBT Match Kings or 165gr Soft Points for hunting.

Small variations in bullet weight are not that important and don't make much difference in the load you use so long as your load isn't at the very top of the pressure range.

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Old May 19th, 2015, 07:02 PM   #66
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One of the important items that has to be drilled into the head of newbee handloaders is not to fall into the mindset that "velocity equals accuracy".

It's something that I have run into more than I can remember.

Sometime when they are in with the wrong crowd and don't listen to guys with experience or really aren't worried about accuracy more than "knockdown power",
things can get dicey.

There was at least one guy at the local range. You know, cammo and beret type who loaded to max then looked for overpressure signs because his buds told him that
what he needed was "hitting power" and the load books were always too conservative.

My main advice was to either start low and load up slowly looking for grouping or to
poll many forums for tried and true loads. There are many good, reliable loads that one can trust because of extensive experience folks have had with it.

Handloading can be fun but not really much money saving in the popular calibers.

If you have to handload be safe about it.

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Old May 22nd, 2015, 11:11 AM   #67
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Handloading- powder shelf life?

I have most of what I see below and have hand loaded .45 ACP with my single stage RCBS for my 1911 pistol years ago. Q: I have a can of Hercules Unique powder (20 years old) and was wondering if it is still usable? Maybe Hercules Unique is just for pistol? Have no clue about shelf life on powder that is NOT inside a casing... Cheers lads


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Old May 22nd, 2015, 03:49 PM   #68
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Answers a lot of my questions, too. I have an RCBS Summit and die sets and shell holders for 308 and 233 on the way. I have quite a bit of accessories yet to buy. This helps tremendously.

1. The RCBS web site recommends the Speer Reloading Manual. You prefer the Sierra. This was my main question while browsing these posts. Do you still recommend the Sierra manual?

2. Does the manual need to match the brand of bullets? Ie., Speer manual for Speer's bullets, Sierra's manual for Sierra bullets, etc.?

In general, you want the manual to the bullet manufacturer if for no other reason than the ballistics tables. Even bullet weights of the same manufacturer may have different load data based on bullet shape. (bearing area) If you are ALWAYS going to start at the lowest level and work your way up, can only afford one manual, you can use one of your favorite color and remember to be conservative.

One perk of Sierra is the ballistics software sometimes bundled with their manual.

Can't have too many manuals and powder manufacturers have their data on line for free.

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Old May 31st, 2015, 03:24 PM   #69
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HERE'S WHERE I AM:

Here's where I am on my journey to reloading... I have a press, dies, shell holders, and a Hornady manual. I also have a lot of my own saved brass and 3 boxes of CCI primers for 308. It's not enough yet to get started. So I'm considering what to buy next. I can't just get it all at once like I would like to.

So, I'm thinking to next buy a sonic cleaner, RCBS or Hornady, and an RCBS Automatic Bench Priming Tool, as I have the money. The idea being that I could then clean and prime all of my saved brass. I'd be that far ahead of the game when I get the rest of the needed tools.

MY QUESTIONS:

Does that make good sense?

What would be the order of operation to clean and deprime/reprime all of my saved brass?

Also, I have 308, 7.62, 223, and 5.56 brass. Is the 7.62 and 5.56 brass reloadable, as well?


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HERE'S WHERE I AM:

Here's where I am on my journey to reloading... I have a press, dies, shell holders, and a Hornady manual. I also have a lot of my own saved brass and 3 boxes of CCI primers for 308. It's not enough yet to get started. So I'm considering what to buy next. I can't just get it all at once like I would like to.

So, I'm thinking to next buy a sonic cleaner, RCBS or Hornady, and an RCBS Automatic Bench Priming Tool, as I have the money. The idea being that I could then clean and prime all of my saved brass. I'd be that far ahead of the game when I get the rest of the needed tools.

MY QUESTIONS:

Does that make good sense?

What would be the order of operation to clean and deprime/reprime all of my saved brass?

Also, I have 308, 7.62, 223, and 5.56 brass. Is the 7.62 and 5.56 brass reloadable, as well?


The hand primer works just fine for me. Priming being the fastest of all my operations, at this time I see no need to do it a different way. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/329...d-priming-tool

You'll need to decide on how you want to trim your cases. Need some type of case gage and maybe a comparator of some type. (I use a wilson case gage for quick checks, and a hornady comparator set to take measurements for reference) The priming coming after you have your cases sized to the spec you want and trimmed to the length you desire, usually.

Oh.. and as long as your brass is boxer primed, it should be easily reloadable. If you don't want to get started on the other processes yet, could always decap what you have and clean it.

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HERE'S WHERE I AM:

Here's where I am on my journey to reloading... I have a press, dies, shell holders, and a Hornady manual. I also have a lot of my own saved brass and 3 boxes of CCI primers for 308. It's not enough yet to get started. So I'm considering what to buy next. I can't just get it all at once like I would like to.

So, I'm thinking to next buy a sonic cleaner, RCBS or Hornady, and an RCBS Automatic Bench Priming Tool, as I have the money. The idea being that I could then clean and prime all of my saved brass. I'd be that far ahead of the game when I get the rest of the needed tools.

MY QUESTIONS:

Does that make good sense?

What would be the order of operation to clean and deprime/reprime all of my saved brass?

Also, I have 308, 7.62, 223, and 5.56 brass. Is the 7.62 and 5.56 brass reloadable, as well?

Clean it, size it, trim it, deburr it, prime it, in that order.

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Old May 31st, 2015, 04:41 PM   #72
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I don't actually have the cleaner and primer yet. Should I instead get the sonic cleaner and what other piece of equipment?


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So, the point being, what can I accomplish with my brass, given only the equipment I mentioned?
Not much. Clean it and deprime it. Thats about it.

NATO brass with a crimped primer? If so, add a primer pocket swage tool to your list.

So you need....
Calipers (didnt see you mention those)
case lube of your choosing
case gage/comparator/both
Case trimmer
Priming tool
Chamfer/debur tool
Maybe a primer pocket uniformer if you choose to do that
A good scale WITH check weights
Powder measure of some sort

OH... bullet puller of some sort, for WHEN you screw up.

Most of this is covered in the front of your Hornady manual.... though its DRY reading, I know.

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I need a whole list of equipment. But only a little at a time. I'm just trying to get the next one or two items needed to allow me to start preparing the brass I have. So, the sonic cleaner and what else?

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I need a whole list of equipment. But only a little at a time. I'm just trying to get the next one or two items needed to allow me to start preparing the brass I have. So, the sonic cleaner and what else?
Dunno how to say this without sounding like a total jerk..... so Im sorry.

I'd say you need a buddy who reloads, or save your money up for the tooling while you read/study the process. No amount of tooling will stop you from destroying your rifle (or your face) if you don't understand the process.

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