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Old August 18th, 2012, 09:21 AM   #1
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CMI the only current supplier of M14 magazines to the US?

CMI is the only company supplying the military with M14 magazines now, right?

How are they marked? Pics would help.

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Old August 18th, 2012, 09:23 AM   #2
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To the best of my knowledge they are the only supplier.

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Old August 18th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #3
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To the best of my knowledge they are the only supplier.
Are they marked the same as the CMI mags marketed to the public?

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i would think there's something additional as in "gov'ment property" ?

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CMI magazines have been marked in different ways over the years they have been in production. Some early magazines were nor marked. Next came CMI, CMI for government or law enforcement use only, just CMI again, and now they have a special logo marking on the floor plate along with the standard CMI on the back side.
I doubt that current government mags have the new floor plate marking.

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CMI magazines have been marked in different ways over the years they have been in production. Some early magazines were nor marked. Next came CMI, CMI for government or law enforcement use only, just CMI again, and now they have a special logo marking on the floor plate along with the standard CMI on the back side.
I doubt that current government mags have the new floor plate marking.
Some of them do, just because we order them direct from CMI.

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Early is how early for the unmarked? Current issue should have some mark of some kind, right?

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I strongly suggest buying CMI mags from Brownells or direct from CMI. Yes, they are the only DoD supplier. They are marked the same, as far as I know, for the civilian market and they also make the Springfield mags.

At CMI a carbon steel 20 rd mag NSN#: 1005-00-628-9048 Gov't: 7790183 and cost is $27. plus shipping.
The stainless steel 20 rd mag with teflon coated follower is $28.00 plus shipping.
The 25 rd carbon mag is $36.00.

At Brownells the 20 rd carbon steel mag is $26.99.
The Stainless steel 20rd is $27.99.
The 25 rd mag is $30.99. So the best place would be Brownells IMHO.

I have 4 stainless steel mags and love the way it looks and it functions absolutely flawless. The same applies for the carbon steel mags including the five rd mag from CMI.
I use Brownells for everything and I have an account so I can get a discount, and sometimes it is a pretty good amount of savings too.
I bought a 20 rd ProMag M14 mag to test. I never even got to the range. It failed every test. After loading the mag with 18 rds of dummy rds I started running rds through it. The first rd went nose-up and dented the case. The next rd same thing, but this time the follower stuck in the body. I disassembled and cleaned (but it wasn't dirty) and tried again with dummys and live rds. Same thing. These mags have NO MARKING at all. Sent it back to Brownells and they refunded me. Brownells is one of those service oriented family owned companies that is just great. I've used them since 1992 and never a problem.
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Early is how early for the unmarked? Current issue should have some mark of some kind, right?
From Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide Version 1.6 (available for free download):

"Check-Mate Industries Magazines

Check-Mate Industries (Wyandanch, NY) has been the sole supplier of USGI contract M14 magazines since 1985. Check-Mate Industries (CMI) M14 magazines became available to the commercial retail market in the spring of 2006 aside from supplying Springfield Armory, Inc. with M1A magazines since the early 1990s. Excerpt from M14 Rifle History and Development Fifth Edition by Lee Emerson copyright 2011:

Check-Mate Industries has manufactured ten, fifteen, and twenty round magazines for Springfield Armory, Inc. Until mid-2006, twenty round magazines produced for the commercial market had no manufacturer markings. Beginning that summer, the company logo was often stamped on the twenty round magazine floor plate exterior. The Armalite, Inc. company logo was stamped on a run of twenty round magazines in the summer of 2006. Starting in January 2007, Check-Mate Industries stamped its retail sale twenty round magazines C.M.I. on the rear side. As of February 2008, the crossed cannons logo of Springfield Armory, Inc. apears on the rear side of twenty round magazines manufactured for Springfield Armory, Inc. The same logo appears on fifteen round magazines as of March 2009. Until 2009, Springfield Armory, Inc. M1A fifteen round magazines used a twenty round body with a wood block under the follower to prevent loading more than fifteen rounds. Three months later, Check-Mate Industries introduced polished stainless steel twenty round M14 magazines to the commercial market. The stainless steel magazines were assembled with PTFE coated steel followers and marked C.M.I. on the rear side and the floor plate was stamped with the company logo."

Also, SOME CMI ten round M14 magazines made before 2006 were marked C.M.I. on the rear side of the body. Additionally, some CMI magazines have been given fake 1960s manufacturer markings to make them appear "pre-ban." See Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide Version 1.6 for further information.

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So nobody has really answered part of the OP. Are the mags CMI provides to the military marked any differently on the mag? Personally I would think that the only change from the military mag and the civvy mag would possibly be the long term packaging. Military mags might show the NSN number and be packaged in long term storage packing. Although the blue bags I've received my civvy mags in are already proven to be long term. The only persons that can answer this question is one in the military that has gotten mags that are in the military supply system and has opened one up. dozier

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The military contract magazines won't have CMI, Armalite or SA, Inc. logos.

During the ten year AW ban, military CMI magazines had the LEO / Govt. Use Only marking on the rear side. Before 1994, military contract CMI twenty round M14 magazines were marked C.M.I. on the rear side (see Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide Version 1.6).

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OK here is what's happening- I'm being offered some "current issue USMC" m14 magazines, I just want to be able to ID them as authentic. I have no reason to doubt the individual, in fact he has solid references, I just want to be sure.

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OK here is what's happening- I'm being offered some "current issue USMC" m14 magazines, I just want to be able to ID them as authentic. I have no reason to doubt the individual, in fact he has solid references, I just want to be sure.

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Can you post several photos of these magazines? There are a lot of fake M14 magazines out there. Trust me in this. I am the co-author of Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide.

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Can you post several photos of these magazines? There are a lot of fake M14 magazines out there. Trust me in this. I am the co-author of Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide.
I won't see them until I do the deal in person. I really had not thought to ask him to send me a pic since we are local. Might not be a bad idea.

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Several photos of each sample magazine will be more helpful. Either that or go to lulu.com, search for and download Pictorial M14 Magazine Identification Guide Version 1.6. There are some good fakes out there.

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