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Bought 3750 Rounds 7.62 NATO Port Linked from Samco

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Old June 9th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #16
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That's why I asked, thanks.
I will cut them open tomorrow and follow up if I have any issues.

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Old June 9th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #17
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I bought 3750 rounds and the shipping was $196. Looking right at $40. That's why I went with the 3 cases. Only way it makes sense is if you buy bulk.

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Since I lurk here quite a bit and use some of the great info, I thought I would contribute hopefully something helpful...

I and some friends have placed multiple orders of this ammo (maybe 15-20k), both in BP and linked. The battle packs were pretty bad with corrosion, over several thousand rounds I'd guestimate about 40% corroded to some extent. Some of the worst were in packs that looked the best, and had no leaks. I hypothesized that the corrosion is from the cardboard boxes as some can be acidic. The linked from Samco is better but by no means corrosion-free. Some belts looked great but I just delinked another 1250 last night and had 200 corroded rounds out of that batch. (some belts do come in totally clean though).

I have found a better way to delink, and can do a 250 belt in an honest 5-7 minutes. I put on mechanic gloves and take a carpenters pencil (unsharpened). Lay the belt out on a carpet floor, low pile like an area rug is best. Push the rounds up from the primer end with the pencil while holding the belt next to it and they for the most part pop right up out of the belt. No disturbance of the bullet this way (some shift quite a bit using the method in the prior video) and it can go FAST (every once in a while you will find a stubborn one). I use scrap carpet in the garage as this can leave a bit of a dirty spot on the carpet, and if you have a wife at the house they seem to get testy when you leave a spot on the bedroom floor.

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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #19
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Thanks for your tips, RedHooker.
A friend of mine says linked ammo is a great deal. I never thought about it because I had heard the de-linkng process can take the nails off your thumbs after a while. But you make it sound do-able.

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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #20
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What I do;

These are sparkplug pliers. They are used to pull the insulated caps off of a sparkplug when checking for failed plugs or lack of spark. I'm not sure if they are used as much anymore as they used to be. I've had them for over forty years. At any rate.

They work great for de-linking ammunition. I have used them in that capacity for the past couple of years. I don't currently have any linked ammo to show, so this is the best I could do. I've found them to be quick and easy on the hands as well as the ammunition.


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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #21
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That's why I asked, thanks.
I will cut them open tomorrow and follow up if I have any issues.


Yes feedback on this ammo would be nice. Do heed the advice that any of the pinkish should not be fired, but pulled down for the bullets. dozier

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Old June 10th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #22
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I'd go for it but I just got back from my father in laws house and found he has stashed 500+rounds of 7.62 and 1k 30/06 GI for my use. I already had 200 my brother gave me before I saw the stash. I'm stoked and can't wait to get back at Christmas to mail this home. Anyone know the cheapest way to mail it back? USPS, UPS, FedEx???

I've had ammo shipped by FedEx and UPS. Don't think USPS will ship though. I think that if FedEx and UPS will require the extra $20 fee for the ammo sticker to be put on the box. Unless you are flying, hand carry the ammo back. dozier

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Old June 10th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #23
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Shipping ammo via UPS is allowed, as long as you put a ORM-D label on the package. There's no extra fee for the ORM-D label - you can print it out yourself and tape it to the box. I just shipped 440 rounds of 308 and it cost me a little over $17. Here's a good reference:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_133/3...ed_States.html

"United Parcel Service (UPS):

1. Pack ammo within a sturdy cardboard box, gross weight limit of 66 pounds.
2. Print ORM-D label, cut out and tape to a least one side of box.
3. Take package to a UPS Customer Center only - NOT at Drop-Off Box, The UPS Store, Mail Boxes etc., Sonic. Might be a good idea to have the UPS Hazardous Material Support Center number with you -- 800-554-9964. Varied success with UPS pick-up at your location.

Per UPS:
UPS accepts domestic ground shipments of ammunition that have been classified by the shipper as "Cartridges, small arms", "ORM-D" (Other Regulated Material). The package must be properly marked according to the requirements of Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations (49 CFR). Contact the Hazardous Material Support Center at 800-554-9964 for details on regulatory information."

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Old June 15th, 2012, 11:10 AM   #24
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I cut open one of the battle packs last night and opened up all the boxes.

Each box of 20 had 4 to 6 rounds with black marks on them.
There was no blue, green or pink staining, just black oxidized areas where the rounds touched each-other.
I will hit them with scotch-brite and take some pictures.

Thanks for the heads up on them, I was hoping to leave them sealed thinking it would be best, but now I am going to open them all and store them properly.

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Old June 18th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #25
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Finally got some pics. This is typical of about 5 rounds per pack:





AFTER A LITTLE BRILLO:



LOOK AT #4 ^^^^^



There's a small, I mean pencil point small spot on a few that could be considered "pink" right where the brass necks down.

Opinions.....

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I have 2 battle packs and 1 linked belt inbound from Samco. I also ordered 3 more linked belts from Sportsman Guide. Samco charged $55 for the 2 battle packs and 1 linked belt to NY.
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Old June 18th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #27
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Toss the pink ones. I had a case failure with one. Blew a hole right through the pink area. Sprayed brass flakes and got gases in my face and dislodged the connector lock and magazine. Round was 10" high from my group at 100 yards so it lost velocity as well. I learned my lesson. This was from ammo that no other rounds as yet were corroded so I was not checking. I do now. I'm lucky the case held together and it wasn't a kaboom. I tossed all of these rounds, each had pink. Was replaced by seller and they also replaced my barrel.




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Was replaced by seller and they also replaced my barrel.
The seller replaced the bad ammo?
Was it Samco?

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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:45 AM   #29
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after the ammo is delinked, is there anything that can be done with
the links?

can it be sold as scrap metal?
can it be thrown into a recycle bin?

or is is just garbage?

no machine guns allowed in ny so i dont know anyone that
might be able to reuse it with their select fire guns

oh...didnt know about that pink stuff.....that is good to know

thanks for the good info.....which is why i come here to read

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These are MEN rounds sold as not corroded and therefore the seller replaced the ammo and the barrel costs as 1000 rounds of Prvi Partizan. The pierced case scorched the chamber and ruined it. It would drag the case and cause failures to cycle. No amount of scrubbing would remove and I assume the surface was marred by the side jet. I was really lucky that case held together. Pretty cool of them, but consider I have bought $10k worth of ammo from them over the past ten years. I cannot name the seller as this was part of a gentleman's agreement between us.

Not Samco as notice the cupro-nickel bullets of the MEN. Samco never sold MEN/DAG to my knowledge. Samco did replace my corroded Port rounds from the linked ammo. Not going to replace the corroded battle pack ammo as it is stated as such. I am pretty good at being convincing. It's all about leaving someone an honorable out or two and not being accusatory in tone.

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