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CALIBER .30 M2 ALT. (Value? Use?)

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Old April 15th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #1
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CALIBER .30 M2 ALT. (Value? Use?)

I am looking at an 800 rd LOT of ammo called :

CALIBER .30 M2 ALT.
AMMUNITION LOT D. M.
Stamped : 20098
Des Moines Ordinance Plant

Boxes are sealed and he won't open em so no info from Headstamp. I am told this is Ball ammo and is corrosive! Probably early 1940s.

M2 Alternate was GM Clad Steel (GMCS) jacket.
M2 Alternative had a lead core with less antimony in order to save that vital metal.

Why the Army chose to use those two similar terms to describe different bullets is a mystery. Iím told I can take a strong magnet and hold it at the bottom edge of the carton. If the bullets are magnetic, they are Alternate. If not, they are Alternative. My carton is marked M2 ALT which makes it even more confusing.

- Is M2 Alternate more desirable vs. Alternative.?

- The deal works out to about .40c/round. Good deal?

- Is this for collecting only? Shootable? Price seems good for shooting although Iím not nuts about immediately sanitizing my Garand every time I use this.

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Old April 15th, 2012, 08:22 PM   #2
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"M2 Alternate was GM Clad Steel (GMCS) jacket.
M2 Alternative had a lead core with less antimony in order to save that vital metal."

Could be mistaken, but the 2 features dont have to be mutually exclusive. Are you sure there is a difference between Alternative and Alternate? My bet would be that the military started using steel clad jackets and a less demanding lead core at the same time.

Nevermind...
http://www.iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8878

Interesting read.

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Old April 15th, 2012, 10:20 PM   #3
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Still wondering:

- The deal works out to about .40c/round. Good deal?

- Is this for collecting only? Shootable?

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Old April 15th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #4
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I have several boxes and use it strictly for display. (I've paid about 10-$12 per box of 20)
so .40 cents a round sounds good. I personally wouldn't shoot it because of the corrosiveness of the primers. YMMV.

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Old April 16th, 2012, 11:43 AM   #5
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I made a bunch on inquiries across several forums including this one. Thank you all. I let the guy know it was corrosive and I was not interested in putting it in my Garand. I have a lot of CMP Greek Ball already. But with ease of cleaning there's no reason I can't reserve this stuff for use in my 03A3. I cringe at the idea of removing rounds from enblocks unless the empty brass is flying one piece at a time >>>SHRUG<<< I shoot corrosive in my Mausers and ComBlocs (easier to clean).

It was his dad's (WWII Vet) ammo and he bought this stuff right after the war for his own Garand. After his dad died he remembers trying to clean the barrel and it wouldn't come clean. Took it to a gunsmith and apparently the corrosive was shot through it and never properly cleaned. Bad rust. That's surprising as his dad was a vet and probably would have been trained in dealing with it UNLESS they were already done with corrosive by the time he served. He sold the Garand to a collector a long time ago and this has been taking up space. After we exchanged stories I think he was just glad to get rid of it.

He found 11 more boxes and I ended up giving him $240 for 1020 rounds. That's .23c/rd no shipping, no tax. I think I did okay That's probably a ten year supply at the rate I shoot my Springfield.

Did we use Berdan primers back then or were they just corrosive Boxer? In other words would this brass be reloadable?

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Old April 16th, 2012, 12:02 PM   #6
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I hear stories like this and think of how mad I'd be looking down on my descendants splitting up and selling off my collection. On the bright side though, it generally ends up in the hands of someone who actually appreciates it.

That's almost exactly the price I paid for my '53 Yugo 8x57. I'm already shooting it way faster than you though! At that price level, corrosion is just fine.

Sorry I can't answer your questions, good luck with the ammo

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Old April 16th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #7
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That's almost exactly the price I paid for my '53 Yugo 8x57. I'm already shooting it way faster than you though! At that price level, corrosion is just fine.
That's exactly what I told the guy. I paid .20c/rd for my1950s' Yugo ammo and I cant see paying more for any corrosive (at this point) unless its Yugo M75 sniper ammo (for my M76)

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That brass should be boxer primed, and reloadable...

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That brass should be boxer primed, and reloadable...

Well thats a plus GS455, that gives you the option of pulling the components down and replacing the corrosive primer for a non-corrosive in your Garand. Hopefully the powder has not deteriorated from storage. That could also be replaced for an accurate load. dozier


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