M14 Forum

Ezekiel

What's the word on the Argentina ammo or whatever is head stamped arg-79? I guess then stands for Argentina 1979, right? Is this surplus ammo dirty, high pressure, misfires, accurate, etc? I gotta chance to buy a private sale 1K of it. Thanks! -Ezekiel

Doug Carlton

my bad horsey loves it - ran well in a buddy's FNAR as well, no dirtier than any other surplus I've fired and groups reasonably well at 100 yards - never wrung it out farther than that. I wouldn't pay more than .35 per round...

cute picture of a rocket on the box....my son likes that....

XXIV Corps

The Argentine military surplus ammunition I tested was in the middle of the pack with other surplus ammunition manufactures.

Argentine, '83, [ FLB ], Berdan, three star crimp with green primer sealant. Other HS's FM or FS

1, M852 Lake City from 1991. Top score of 200-20X, on a SR-1 NRA standard 100 yard target, 1-20 round mag only with my NM M1A.
2, M118LR Lake City from 2003, 200-13X,
3, German DAG, surplus from 1993, 200-12X.
4, M118SB Lake City from 1963, 200-10X.
5, M852 Lake City from 1988, 200-10X.
6, Radway Green surplus from 1990, 200-10X.
7, M118SB Lake City from 1985, a 199-12X.
8, Australian MF surplus from 1966, 199-10X.
11, Belgium surplus from 1977, 198-10X.
12, Bosnian surplus from 2003, 198-10X.
13, Radway Green surplus from 1995, 198-8X
14, South African surplus from 1980, 198-6X.
15, Santa Barbra surplus from 1980, 197-14X.
16, Argentine surplus from 1983, 197-8X.
17, German DAG, surplus from 1976, 197-8X.
18, Austria surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
19, Greek surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
20, German MEN 41, surplus from 1969, 197-6X.
21, Singapore surplus from 1986, 196-11X.
22, Israeli surplus from 1974, 196-10X.
23, Australian ADI surplus from 1988, 196-8X.
24, Bosnian M118 surplus from 2003, 196-8X.
25, Serbia surplus from 2002, 196-6X.
26, Malaysian surplus from 1982, 195-6X.
27, Malaysian surplus from 1983, 194-9X.
28, Lithuanian surplus from 2003, 194-6X.
29, Serbia surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
30, Venezuelan surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
31, Denmark, surplus from 1993, 193-2X.
32, Canadian, surplus from 1970, 192-8X.
33, Chilean, surplus from 1976, 191-4X.
34, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1978, 190-4X.
35, Austria surplus from 1978, 190-3X.
36, South African surplus from 1981, 189-1X.
37, Pakistan military surplus from 1979. Score of 188-4X.
38, Indonesian surplus from 1985, 187-1X.

I hope that this can help you Ezekiel.

Bimmer

Where's this available?

The sticky says it's "on the menu," but it's not actually listed...

BTW, the best deal on Serbian PPU is from AmmoMan, $479/1,000, shipped.

XXIV Corps

Cleaned up Bimmer, thanks.

CharlieEcho

Just received my order of Santa Barbara from Widners. Haven't opend the can yet but the box says, (LOT MUN 0204 . 81 FLB IND ARGENTINA ). Anyone know for sure if this manufactured in Spain or Argentina?

XXIV Corps

Well, I have both and they say.... I don't think you received any Santa Barbra yet.

Argentine, '83, [ FLB ], Berdan, three star crimp with green primer sealant.
or
Spain, '80, [ SB ], Berdan, three star crimp with green primer sealant. (Santa Barbra)

CharlieEcho

I opend the can and found a packing label, in Spanish. "( Empresa Nacional Santa Barbara de Industrias Militares, S.A. )" ( FABRICA DE PALENCIA ). Headstamp 7.62X51, SB 81. Very clean and well packaged. Looks good. Probably shoots better than I do.

XXIV Corps

Congratulations CharlieEcho, it's the real thing. Enjoy your time on the rifle range now.