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January 4th, 2012, 02:55 PM
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#1 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 515
| O M magazines ?
A local gun shop has three M14 magazines. Two are in aluminum wrappers. Opened one and it is stamped OM. One is in what looks like a transparent wax paper. Through the wax paper I can see a light brown or tan grease. This one I didn't open.
How can I tell if the two that are marked OM are good mags?? Anyone have a photo, or two?
Going by the stamp,KMT, this one I got there for $20. When I compared it to one I have at home, I may have wasted twenty dollars. Different orientation of the KTM stamp.
Anyways, here's what it looks like.
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This is the stamp Im using to compare.
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Thanks for any opinions.
Cliff
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January 4th, 2012, 03:04 PM
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#2 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northwest
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Don't worry about the orientation of the KMT stamp their known to be different on different runs. IMHO these welds look good. You might want to post pics of any printing on the packages.
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January 4th, 2012, 03:06 PM
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#3 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kennesaw
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I think your good to go on the KMT. The welds look right and it has six dimples. Some of my KMT are stamped sideways and also have a line between the bottom two dimples on the latch plate.
On the OM mags they should have a weld pattern like the KMT. 12 welds below the hole and one to the right of it. The latch plate on the OM mag should have five dimples. That would be four dimples at all four corners and the fifth dimple centered between and slightly above the bottom two. The mag in the waxpaper is most likely a T57(?) mag from Taiwan.
What do you mean by aluminum wrappers? Hope this helps.
I added some OM mag photos I took real quick for you. Hopefully you can see what I mean and the minute differences that can be had between mags made by the same company.
Last edited by Quicksilvergoat; January 4th, 2012 at 03:16 PM.
Reason: added photos
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January 4th, 2012, 04:00 PM
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#4 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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The KMT mag was not wrapped. Just lying loose in the display case with the others. Plus two 30 rounders. I didn't get a look at the OM mag wrapper printing. He unwrapped it and handed the mag to me. But the wrapper looked to be some type of aluminum. I should also say that the wrapper is not a bag. Just folded nice and tight around the mag.The mag has little white specks/?? on it. Kinda like tiny rust spots, raised up, but white not rusty brown. Tomorrow I will go back and take a better look, and clean one up. He also want's $20 each for the OM mags., and the one in waxed paper.
If the OM appears as Quicksilvergoat explained, I will get them and post pictures. Glad to hear the KMT is good to go.
Thanks
Cliff
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January 4th, 2012, 04:01 PM
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#5 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas
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My OM's have always ran like a top. in and out of a gunfight.
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January 4th, 2012, 05:17 PM
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#6 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kennesaw
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I'm at a loss on the wrapping you are describing. I would definitely buy the OM mags if they check out. To my knowledge OM mags are not commonly counterfeited. Make sure tkae pics of the wrap as well. If it was me I'd pass on the other wax paper mag. 20 dollars each is a great price.
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January 4th, 2012, 05:43 PM
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#7 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Thanks to all for the help.
After reading about those who got burned buying fake magazines, I hated to become a statistic.
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January 4th, 2012, 05:53 PM
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#8 | | Snappin In
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Indiana
Posts: 22
| Mags
I would steer clear of the wax paper wrapped one. I learned that the hard way a few months ago. At a gun show I came across a wax paper wrapped mag. Seller assured me it was "Genuine USGI mag" He didnt want me to peel the paper to inspect for a stamp because it "would ruin the value" Long story short. It didnt have any stamp on it once i cleaned it up. Research on this site leads me to believe its Chinese or Tawainese.
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January 4th, 2012, 06:42 PM
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#9 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kennesaw
Posts: 346
| Quote:
Originally Posted by m14nm  Thanks to all for the help.
After reading about those who got burned buying fake magazines, I hated to become a statistic. | That's why we're here man.
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January 4th, 2012, 07:10 PM
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#10 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: under a rock IN CENTRAL MASS.
Posts: 820
| Quote:
Originally Posted by m14nm The KMT mag was not wrapped. Just lying loose in the display case with the others. Plus two 30 rounders. I didn't get a look at the OM mag wrapper printing. He unwrapped it and handed the mag to me. But the wrapper looked to be some type of aluminum. I should also say that the wrapper is not a bag. Just folded nice and tight around the mag.The mag has little white specks/?? on it. Kinda like tiny rust spots, raised up, but white not rusty brown. Tomorrow I will go back and take a better look, and clean one up. He also want's $20 each for the OM mags., and the one in waxed paper.
If the OM appears as Quicksilvergoat explained, I will get them and post pictures. Glad to hear the KMT is good to go.
Thanks
Cliff | the tiny white specs are carbonate crystals from the parko process.
the aluminum paper is aluminum and paper sandwich treated with a rust inhibitor (VCI), they were then sealed in the bags.
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January 4th, 2012, 07:30 PM
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#11 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: shiloh,il
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M14NM
Just so you know that is the Absolute Best KMT Stamp I have Ever Seen. Nice and Deep very strong. And I have Been Collecting for over 40 years,
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January 5th, 2012, 05:44 PM
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#12 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kennesaw
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So did you buy them or not?
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January 5th, 2012, 07:26 PM
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#13 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Well I went back and checked out the OM mags. Using the information that I learned here, I was pretty sure they were USGI, so I purchased both. $20ea. I assumed both were OM but one turned out to be UHC when I unwrapped it.
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The UHC has some of the wrapper stuck to it.
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And the only wrapper that had writing on it was the OM wrapper.
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Looks like:
Licensed under ???
Sh?? Development ??
Pat No. 2449967 and ??
Hopefully all three are U.S. G.I. Let me know if you can. Thanks for all the help,
Cliff
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January 5th, 2012, 07:34 PM
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#14 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kennesaw
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I think your good to go. Especially on the OM mag. The marked follower seals it. Most followers weren't marked. Only OM and BRW did off the top of my head. I'm not familiar with the that type packaging. I know the mags better than what they come in. They are either still new or rewraps. The UHC mag is USGI as well. Union Hardware Company.
Good Deal.
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January 5th, 2012, 07:44 PM
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#15 | | Platoon Commander
Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Thanks Quicksilvergoat, I was hoping that I got good ones. And the price was right also.
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