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Old November 15th, 2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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308 Brown Bear FMJ 7.62x51

I found 308 Brown Bear FMJ 7.62x51 which is lacquered steel cased 500rds for $183 on a website and I was bout to snatch it up but they didnt have any reviews about it so I am wondering if any of you have had experiences with this munitions? I have gone ahead bought 40rds to test out. Just curious to see if anyone has input about this concerning the M1A/M14?

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Old November 15th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #2
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I would stay away from Brown Bear. Dirty dirty and not very accurate in my book. Silver and Golden Bear is a better choice but still not a diet I would want to put my nice rifle on. Just my personal opinion, YMMV.

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Old November 15th, 2011, 05:52 PM   #3
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Gold, silver, brown, blue, red, or green bear is all crap I would not run in anything but a junk rifle. It's so dirty after a day at the range that I want to shoot myself for buying it.

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Old November 15th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #4
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I did notice that. I shot Brown Bear through my Mosin Nagant this past weekend and this red film filled my chamber and covered the bolt. I wasnt too pleased. How about PMC Bronze, American Eagle, or Winchester?

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Old November 15th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #5
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Just a question, but, why buy a 1500 rifle, and try to put the crappiest cheap ammo in it? For me, Ive spent a lot of money on my boys, theyre worth more to me than that. Ive read some horror stories about the russian ammo, dont skimp, get some better quality stuff, You will thank yourself in the long run, just my opinion, and Im not trying to put you down.

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Just a question, but, why buy a 1500 rifle, and try to put the crappiest cheap ammo in it? For me, Ive spent a lot of money on my boys, theyre worth more to me than that. Ive read some horror stories about the russian ammo, dont skimp, get some better quality stuff, You will thank yourself in the long run, just my opinion, and Im not trying to put you down.
I honestly dont know much about guns and ammo aside from the very basics they teach us in Air Force Basic Training, but I do know that if you look around and ask the right questions, you can find pretty good deals on decent ammo. I figured eh... what is it going to hurt $183 for 500rds. Probably not the best ammo to be putting through my rifle but there is no harm at all in asking. Who knows... maybe it will turn out it isnt all that bad and I can get away with it. Now if it turns out to be what I expected, then I learned something new. No harm no foul.

As a rule of thumb I understand that pretty much all Russian made ammo is not any good but that still wont stop me from asking around to be sure.

But dont worry I am not offended by what you said nor I am upset. I expected to get the truth about it from here and that is what I am getting.

Now my questions is, what you consider as good enough to put through the M14? I am sorry though. I will not be buying ammo that on average runs $20 plus for 20rds. Especially if it is more than $20. I ran PMC bronze through my gun last weekend and I didnt have any problems at all so if I have to stick to that, that wont bother me.

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Old November 15th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #7
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This is the crap that AK guys use STAY FAR FAR away.

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Old November 15th, 2011, 07:11 PM   #8
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This is the crap that AK guys use STAY FAR FAR away.
Lol is this on principle, because it is crappy ammo, or both lol?

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Old November 15th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #9
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I find Brown Bear to be rather clean when compared to Wolf. Don't have any experience with it in .308 win though. But it runs like a champ in my buddy's Yugo RPK =)> As for the 7.62x51mm NATO chambered weapons, I tend to use NATO spec mil-surplus rounds for practice. But in an AK platform of any caliber I figure why not use the steel cased Russian ammo that they were designed around. Just my $0.02

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Now my questions is, what you consider as good enough to put through the M14? I am sorry though. I will not be buying ammo that on average runs $20 plus for 20rds. Especially if it is more than $20.
Start with any good military surplus ammunition from the listing below or any one from this The Cheapest 7.62x51mm on the Internet. I hope that this help's you AirConda.

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Old November 15th, 2011, 07:34 PM   #11
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Stick with the PMC Bronze. My Socom loves it. And it is well made ammo for the price. The batch I ran through my Chrony gave me single digit standard deviation. That's in a 16.25" barrel, your mileage may vary. Brass is good for reloading also.
Cheaper than dirt has Winchester White box 7.62mm on sale for $11.79 per box of 20. Not as accurate as PMC (in my rifle), but good plinking ammo at that price.

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Start with any good military surplus ammunition from the listing below or any one from this The Cheapest 7.62x51mm on the Internet. I hope that this help's you AirConda.
Thanks man. I will have to take a look at those. Likes I said in my other post. With my Mosin... I am not as concerned about the type of ammo it shoots as long as it works but the M14 I do want to try take a little more care of it.

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Stick with the PMC Bronze. My Socom loves it. And it is well made ammo for the price. The batch I ran through my Chrony gave me single digit standard deviation. That's in a 16.25" barrel, your mileage may vary. Brass is good for reloading also.
Cheaper than dirt has Winchester White box 7.62mm on sale for $11.79 per box of 20. Not as accurate as PMC (in my rifle), but good plinking ammo at that price.

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Yeah I saw that on Cheaper and was about to get it but their shipping is what kills me. You find a good deal on ammo and then you always lose to shipping. So I have seen so far.

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How about PMC Bronze, American Eagle, or Winchester?
Of the 3 mentioned Most seem to Prefer the PMC Bronze
I know I do

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Old November 15th, 2011, 09:03 PM   #15
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Brown Bear is some of the best steel cased ammo I've used..... It's MUCH cleaner shooting than Wolf & is reasonably accurate, if fact most of my rifles shoot better with Bear than they do with SA - I've shot well over 10K rds of steel cased ammo thru my M14s & FALs with no issues..... Bear is good ammo!!

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