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Old October 2nd, 2016, 02:09 PM   #1
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I've got to rage here, and hopefully some of you understand where I'm coming from.

Every base I've been to, the medical group absolutely flat out SUCKS.

- Appointments are booked 1 month out. SERIOUSLY? So the sickness I schedule an appointment for is suppose to just still be there a month later? What about my meds? Am I suppose to count each pill and determine when to call in my appointment one month in advance? I guarantee almost everything we call the doctor for is because we need immediate relief/consultation. I can't think of anything that can wait 1 whole ____ month.

- They ASSUME everything. Tumors? Cysts? Nah son, those are just lymph nodes. Oh, your previous doctor told you to have it removed? Well it's just a lymph node now. Arm broken? Let me twist and squeeze it, nah son, you just hit your elbow too hard. (this happened to my son. we took him to a REAL doctor who called the AF doc an idiot and put my sons arm in a cast).

- They WANT you to use their services. You mean you'll penalize me for going somewhere that I could get URGENT care instead of waiting 1 month for your subpar opinions? Yeah, no thanks.


I have to vent because these last few days have been so infuriating. I've had a sore throat for 3 weeks. Why? Because one, I can man up and handle a sore throat on my own. Two, the doctor wouldn't be able to see me for a month anyways, so might as well take care of things on my own. Hell, even I did see the doctor his response would be "Sore throat, nah, just hydrate."

Anyways, Thursday (week 3 of having this sore throat), the SHTF. This thing turned into a monster. It crippled me with all kinds of symptoms (chills, fever, uncontrollable shaking, couldn't eat or drink because of the swelling, couldn't sleep, crippling aches). I gave the Air Force docs a call (wishful thinking of course). As expected, no available appointments any time soon. I don't have time for that. I go to urgent care in the local town, and the doctor says she is positive I have strep or mono (the kissing disease, go figure...?). She gives me some antibiotics and some mouthwash that numbs my throat for 60 seconds so I can swallow some food. I'm thinking now that I've been seen by a real doctor I should be GOOD TO GO within a few days. WRONGGGG!

Last night I was absolutely miserable. Couldn't sleep, my body was leaving pools of sweat on the couch. I was overdosing every medication I had available in my house and NOTHING could rid the pain. DayQuil, Nyquil, numbing mouthwash, Aleve, Tylenol, everything I had. This morning I was furious. Why? Because if the AF med group didn't have ridiculous wait times I could've nipped this thing in the butt long before it got so bad. Now look at me, overdosing medications trying to fix it on my own. I call the military nurse and ask what to do next. I couldnt keep binge drinking/swallowing all the meds if they had no effect (and obviously weren't suppose to be taken together or as frequently). She sent me back to the local Urgent Care. I get there, and of course, it's closed on Sundays. Thanks nurse...

I conclude that I'll just have to hold out until sick call monday morning, where I'd have to shave and get all uniformed up just to be seen by the lousy docs. That line of thinking didn't last long amid all the pain. I went a found another local clinic. Now this doctor meant business!!!

He examined me, told me some mixtures I could make using over the counter meds that would numb my throat, and prescribed me the good stuff... the stuff I've been given after surgeries or in Afghanistan when I sprained my neck.


I just don't get it. Why are appointments one month out? Why don't they actually examine you instead of assuming and wasting time? Why do I have full faith in a civilian doctor instead of my fellow Air Force medical personnel?

I tell you what, I will never enroll with the base med group again. They gave me the option when I first got here to enroll with civilian providers, and if I EVER receive those options again the Air Force will never be my pick.


Notes*: Yes, I'm sure there's a reason appointments are so far out. Yes, I'm sure some of these docs making assumptions are actually trying. But guys, I'm sick of it. This happens to everyone. Something needs to be done.

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 02:18 PM   #2
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Good luck. Prime remote can sometimes be just as cumbersome. There is no sick call so if your PCM can't see you right away then it's off to the ER. Referrals are a pain in the ass too.

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 02:21 PM   #3
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Good luck. Prime remote can sometimes be just as cumbersome. There is no sick call so if your PCM can't see you right away then it's off to the ER. Referrals are a pain in the ass too.
I try to avoid the ERs. One: the 3-4 hour wait just to be called back, then waiting an hour to be seen, then waiting an hour to be released. Two: I hate showing up to ERs with minor things like colds when there's a guy with nails in his hand beside me.

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I try to avoid the ERs. One: the 3-4 hour wait just to be called back, then waiting an hour to be seen, then waiting an hour to be released. Two: I hate showing up to ERs with minor things like colds when there's a guy with nails in his hand beside me.
The last time I walked into a ER everyone was wearing masks
I could not run out of there fast enough

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 04:02 PM   #5
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The last time I walked into a ER everyone was wearing masks
I could not run out of there fast enough
Haha!

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 04:05 PM   #6
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I don't blame you on the ER but because it can be overboard when an urgent care would be just fine but we can't use them.

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It sucked when I was in 1969-73. Especially the dentists, real ham fist pain artists.

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 04:27 PM   #8
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The way this country treats our veterans is inexcusable and sinful
With what you sacrificed you should want and need for nothing

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It sucked when I was in 1969-73. Especially the dentists, real ham fist pain artists.
You're not kidding either. It wasn't much better in Germany in '77 when I was getting out. They had a contract dentist from England who didn't seem to know what he was doing. I was in the office for him to check me out so I could clear medical. I walked in just as a pfc who was going to have 3 wisdom teeth pulled was called, so I needed to wait until after the pfc was done. After about 45 minutes, the dentist came out in a hurry and is mumbling how he was in over his head and needed help asap. I looked at my clearance papers and signed his name in the appropriate line and walked out as fast as I could. Nobody said anything when I turned in my papers. -Lloyd

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The way this country treatls our veterans is inexcusable and sinful
With what you sacrificed you should want and need for nothing
Until those from the president and his administration ,the Senate and the House of Representatives and their families experience the same medical treatment the active military personnel and veterans experience NOTHING will ever change and you as active military and veteran will continue to hear the political drone about a "grateful nation". These people don't care about you or your family and never will. These people will only realize this when good people STOP serving in our nation's military. Sound harsh on my part??? It's meant to...I served and I have to deal with the medical military experience also...the VA!

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Things haven't changed much over time:

Rudyard Kipling


Tommy

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

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If the complaint is largely against USAF medical, I can certainly relate. While I was in, I had to go to medical enough to legitimately claim that my medical record was about as thick as a phone book due to my young dumb self getting into on the job accidents on a semi regular basis.

I could complain a whole lot about many things, but I'll summarize by saying I was nothing more then a numbered slab of meat and a learning opportunity at an AF medical group. I got far better medical care at a couple Army Camp's, then any AF medical group I ever had the misfortune of wandering into.

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My ex-wife was a 4NXXX (general medic), I have heard it all. At our last base she was assigned to Fight Medicine; although I am maintenance, I could be seen at FLT MED if I called her to make the APPT. WAY better! Pilots and Flyers don't know what us poens have to go through to get an APPT at Family Practice.

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