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Old July 28th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #16
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Back a decade or so there were 1500 F-4ís sitting in the bone yard in Tucson. Row after row all lined up. The would be flown in on a regular basis for their final flights.

I see them rarely now. Last year I saw one come in. My office is literally at the end of the runway and I can pretty much tell what it is without looking up to check. I would guess they have scrapped most of them by now.

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Old July 28th, 2016, 10:53 PM   #17
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Couple other Phantom stories...

My dad interviewed a guy for an airline pilot job in the mid 80's whose resume said he had over 8000 hours in the F4 in the USMC. Impressive. After some consideration, they realized he must be the High Guy--the man with the most hours in that airplane. As it turned out, he wasn't even a licensed pilot.

Fast forward five years, different airling, and my dad is running a checkflight in the simulator. He gets a call that they're interviewing a guy who listed him as a reference. Didn't recognize the name, but he's flown with a ton of guys over the years. He shows up at the interview and ITS THE SAME GUY (different name). He was pretty convinced at the time that he probably landed an airline job somewhere...



Other story is of the family friend who flew F4's in VN with the USMC. He played briefly with the Cowboys as a running back in the mid 60's. Shot down twice, and showed us the film from his 2 MiG kills. He gave my brother his survival vest plus a USAF Aircrewman's revolver & shoulder holster that he got off the body of a Viet Cong who he'd shot in the face when he'd crawled up to his trench. I remember he had a picture of Hanoi taken out the top of the canopy when the plane was on it's edge very low over the outskirts. Lots of startled faces on bicycles.

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Back a decade or so there were 1500 F-4ís sitting in the bone yard in Tucson. Row after row all lined up. The would be flown in on a regular basis for their final flights.

I see them rarely now. Last year I saw one come in. My office is literally at the end of the runway and I can pretty much tell what it is without looking up to check. I would guess they have scrapped most of them by now.
Spent many years working at ASPC-Tucson and have seen many go up never too return...

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Old July 29th, 2016, 09:02 AM   #19
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I was an F-4N and F-4S Ordie in the Marines in the late '70's thru mid '80's.
I should have a permanent scar on my forehead from walking into the leading edge slats on the F-4S during launches. Stray voltage check, pull the pins, exit under the wing and Doh! The "N" model didn't have those!
I went from active to reserve in VMFA-321.
Later as a civilian I launched the Navy's last F-4 chase plane out of Pax River for it's trip to the desert. Sort of a sad day.
VMFA-321, MAG-41 Det A, "Hells Angels " (my last Squadron), a Reserve Squadron at Andrews AFB, switched over to F-18s around 1990. The last Marine F-4S was Reserve Squadron VMFA-112, MAG-41, at Dallas/Ft Worth which switched over in 1992.
There was a Navy Reserve RF-8 squadron at Andrews until 1987 and later a few Navy Reserve FR-4 at Andrews too. F-8s were kind of cool to watch with the tilting wing. And they pulled the entire back half of the fuselage off to change engines. Weird, but cool.

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Old July 29th, 2016, 11:33 AM   #20
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I worked 'em for a couple of years at Nellis in Nevada. They had a reputation for killing Techs who worked in the cockpit & didn't respect the ejection seat.

From a purely historical standpoint- great platform. From my perspective as a Jet Mech- Nightmare, but typical of 50's technology. B-52's were of a similar nature.

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I got to go for a ride in one, which was as cool a thing as I have ever done!!!! I was only sixteen, which was a long time ago....I'll never forget it though.

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I was in 1st grade in St. Louis in 1963. On warm days, we had the windows open and the sky was full of Phantoms.

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I was an F-4N and F-4S Ordie in the Marines in the late '70's thru mid '80's.
I should have a permanent scar on my forehead from walking into the leading edge slats on the F-4S during launches. Stray voltage check, pull the pins, exit under the wing and Doh! The "N" model didn't have those!
I went from active to reserve in VMFA-321.
Later as a civilian I launched the Navy's last F-4 chase plane out of Pax River for it's trip to the desert. Sort of a sad day.
VMFA-321, MAG-41 Det A, "Hells Angels " (my last Squadron), a Reserve Squadron at Andrews AFB, switched over to F-18s around 1990. The last Marine F-4S was Reserve Squadron VMFA-112, MAG-41, at Dallas/Ft Worth which switched over in 1992.
There was a Navy Reserve RF-8 squadron at Andrews until 1987 and later a few Navy Reserve FR-4 at Andrews too. F-8s were kind of cool to watch with the tilting wing. And they pulled the entire back half of the fuselage off to change engines. Weird, but cool.

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Like Clark I served in the Nevada Air Guard only it was Jan. 75 to Dec. 93, just short of 19 years. I joined just as the RF101 Voodoo was going out and RF4C was coming in. Although I worked in Intel I had the pleasure of a flight in the F4 and I still think the pilots should have been paying the Air force for the fun of flying them rather than the other way around. I actually got to do aerobatics over Pyramid Lake and did a four point roll. Not so easy from the back seat... We did almost 100 percent of the low level tactical air reconnaissance, flying out of Bahrain during Desert Storm. The RF4C was retired in 1995. Most went to the bone yard, but six of the NVANG planes went to the Spanish Air Force. Before they retired, one of our F4s was used to set three international speed records for it's class. It was a great bird!

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Old August 4th, 2016, 01:24 PM   #25
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The back seat of an F4 is not an enjoyable place for an avionics tech to ride. I had a reputation of loosing my lunch every time I rode and the pilots took full advantage of it. Nothing like leaving the end of the runway and pulling straight up and accelerating toward the moon. Then coming back down and spinning while telling me over the intercom that all sorts of bad stuff had happened to the aircraft just to get the anticipated results. It worked every darn time, no matter what I tried.


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My pappy took me up in his Phantom yearrrrs ago. I was 12. What a treat. He was stationed in AZ. Air Force.

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