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Old February 28th, 2016, 10:15 AM   #16
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Looks like the B-2 Spirit to me! They used to be $500,000,000 a copy when they first came out.

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Old September 19th, 2016, 07:22 PM   #17
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Exclamation New B-21 bomber named 'Raider': U.S. Air Force

Northrop Grumman Corp's B-21 long-range bomber will be called "Raider," U.S. Air Force Secretary Deborah James said on Monday.
The estimated $80 billion program has been shrouded in secrecy since its inception for fear of revealing military secrets to potential enemies.
The bomber was named after the Doolittle raiders, who early in World War Two carried out bombing missions over Japan, James said while speaking at a conference.
Northrop won a contract in October to develop and build 100 of the new bombers.
The stealth B-21, the first new U.S. bomber of the 21st century, is part of an effort to replace the Air Force's aging B-52 and B-1 bombers, though it is not slated to be ready for combat use before 2025.
Earlier this year, James unveiled the first image of the bomber and announced a contest to decide on a name.
James and Air Force Chief of Staff David Goldfein chose the name after a panel narrowed down more than 2,000 submissions, an Air Force statement said.
Sixteen B-25 bombers under the command of American aviator Lieutenant Colonel James "Jimmy" Doolittle bombed Tokyo and other places in Japan on April 18, 1942, when American spirits were at a low point, just four months after Japanese forces attacked Pearl Harbor in Hawaii.
To boost public morale, President Franklin Roosevelt asked the armed forces to respond to Pearl Harbor, and Doolittle, already retired, returned to active duty and the plan for the raid was hatched.
Over the years, the legend of their mission - the first U.S. raid to strike the Japanese home islands - has grown, spawning books and a movie and recognized by military and history buffs.
Retired Lieutenant Colonel Richard Cole, who recently turned 101 years old and was Doolittle's co-pilot, was alongside James to announce the naming of the bomber.

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Northrop Grumman Corp's B-21 long-range bomber will be called "Raider," U.S. Air Force Secretary Deborah James said on Monday.
The estimated $80 billion program has been shrouded in secrecy since its inception for .....................
That's $80 billion per plane right?


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Old September 19th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #19
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That thing looks like a carpenter's square. I miss the days when bombers looked like THIS:
I was hoping for pics of the B17 and B25.

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That's per plane right?
800 million a copy for the B-21...

the B-2 today cost 2 billion a copy.


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Odd looking bird with a good name , I hope it's performance can live up to , and bring honor to the fine men it was named for.

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Old September 19th, 2016, 09:45 PM   #22
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Destined to be a failure....much like the Oakland Raiders...

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Old September 19th, 2016, 10:53 PM   #23
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That thing looks like a carpenter's square. I miss the days when bombers looked like THIS:
I remember building the Revell model when I was a kid and thought it was the coolest looking plane ever with out having ever seen one.

Decades later I drive by a B-58 Hustler every day taking my daughter to school. Still a great looking machine that catches my eye every time I go by it.

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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:35 AM   #24
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Manned aircraft are just about anachronistic. If a name is needed, how about "Black Hole", as that's how it will suck in dollars.

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Raider is a nice name.

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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:26 PM   #26
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These are the "Last Days" of piloted aircraft. It will be a complete revolution for the Air Force since the route to a bunch of stars on your collar is through a fighter cockpit.

Air Force: Last In First Out. Marine and Navy pilots very happy to have drones in the pipeline to be the First In solution. The X47B program has been wildly successful, much to the chagrin of the Air Force (and foreign potential foes).

"Oops, the bad guys shot down another drone, get the crow bars, start breaking another drone out of Stores!"

Drones won't have that "weak link" called a human being in the performance of the vehicle. When AI graduates to the next level or two the drone will be the most feared weapon system in the aviation theater, much as the submarine is the most feared weapon system in the ocean.

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Old September 20th, 2016, 06:48 PM   #27
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Meanwhile...

The Navy prosecutes a systematic program to improve their submarines and remain the #1 undersea power.

http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20160812-sdak.html

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Old September 20th, 2016, 07:27 PM   #28
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No offense, but "yawn". We got one like that already. I was hoping to see something more different looking. But that's all superficial, maybe it will be awesome despite.

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I would not write piloted aircraft off too quickly. Drones have been successful when flown in air superiority scenarios, where there was no defense.

Employed against an active air force, I would suspect the situational awareness of a real pilot would make any dogfight an easy win for the pilot. Granted, a lot of dogfights are won/lost before visual contact is ever established, but I still think that a guy looking at monitors will never be as agile as a guy looking through a windshield.

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Old September 28th, 2016, 05:35 AM   #30
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*sigh* Gotta love Air Force brass. Always after the shiniest new toy that costs billions. Yeah, I'm sure it will be a wizbang, highspeed lowdrag supercharged go to war type bomber. A type of bomber where we can't afford to lose a single one. The first major conflict we get into against a major power, and we're going to be in trouble the instant we start losing a single aircraft. I can't help but draw WW2 metaphore's to Germany's king tiger tank - too complex, and too costly to be fielded and operational in any substantial number.

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