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How are the Barnett barrels rated?

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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:09 PM   #1
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How are the Barnett barrels rated?

Are they one of the better barrels? In particular, I'm looking at a heavy barrel with 1/12 twist. Its blued a dark black like color. How do they stack up against the Kreiger barrels?

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Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:01 PM   #2
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Barnett barrels are made with Douglas air-gauged blanks; although there are arguably 'better' barrels available, plenty of shooters have made High Master shooting Douglas barrels.

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Old March 2nd, 2011, 05:27 PM   #3
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Re: Barnett barrels

Read through this thread:

http://m14tfl.com/upload/showthread....hlight=Douglas

Particulary post #13 - post #20

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As long as Gene Barnett keeps turning them, it's the only match barrel I'll buy.


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Old March 2nd, 2011, 09:59 PM   #5
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Just out of curiosity how much does the barrel you are looking at going to cost you. I know the barrels he turns are top notch but you have to ask yourself if it is only a small difference from the price you are paying and the price of a Krieger barrel why not get a krieger? I tried doing a little surfing and could not get any info on the method he uses to rifle his barrels or any specs for that matter, maybe I did not look hard enough. I understand air gauged barrels are pretty straight.
One thing I can say is Krieger barrels have a 32 micron finish and concentricity is held to within .0001 of and inch from breach to muzzle. Thats a pretty straight barrel. I think an air gauged barrel is the same spec if I am not mistaken. One other point about Krieger is they utilize the single point cut rifling method when cutting the groves. They cut off very little each pass which virtually eliminates any distortion that you may get using the button rifling method. I am not sure which of the two methods Gene Barnet uses. I fully expect to get 7500 rounds out of my kriegers before they loose there accuracy. I know most say 5000 rounds but I am nuts about cleaning copper from the bore plus the 32 micron finish make clean up a little easier. I don't want to sound like I am putting the GB barrel down I just don't know much about his methods. If you plan on spending $400 bones for a barrel or there about I would opt for the krieger. I have 8 of them them installed 2 waiting to get installed and two spares. I don't shoot anything else on service rifles anymore. The first one I installed was a 1/10 heavy contour CM on my garand. I liked the results so much I never looked at anything else on future builds. If the barrel is dialed in right and you front sight is centered, your rear sight will be deaden the middle and all you have to do is come up to zero they are that straight.

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On my second one now and love it (heavy 1:10 twist).

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I understand air gauged barrels are pretty straight.
Air gauging will tell you about the diameter - not how straight the barrel is.

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I'm on my 2nd Douglas 308W barrel on my M1, and am very satisfied.

I got the current barrel through Champions Choice - and had it installed by them.
For me it was easiest to use USPS (insured & certified) for shipping to them.

If having a more expensive 'big name' barrel would give better 'peace of mind' or confidence, then spending the extra money might be worth it.

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Air gauging will tell you about the diameter - not how straight the barrel is.
Thanks for the explination

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Just out of curiosity how much does the barrel you are looking at going to cost you. I know the barrels he turns are top notch but you have to ask yourself if it is only a small difference from the price you are paying and the price of a Krieger barrel why not get a krieger? I tried doing a little surfing and could not get any info on the method he uses to rifle his barrels or any specs for that matter, maybe I did not look hard enough. I understand air gauged barrels are pretty straight.
One thing I can say is Krieger barrels have a 32 micron finish and concentricity is held to within .0001 of and inch from breach to muzzle. Thats a pretty straight barrel. I think an air gauged barrel is the same spec if I am not mistaken. One other point about Krieger is they utilize the single point cut rifling method when cutting the groves. They cut off very little each pass which virtually eliminates any distortion that you may get using the button rifling method. I am not sure which of the two methods Gene Barnet uses. I fully expect to get 7500 rounds out of my kriegers before they loose there accuracy. I know most say 5000 rounds but I am nuts about cleaning copper from the bore plus the 32 micron finish make clean up a little easier. I don't want to sound like I am putting the GB barrel down I just don't know much about his methods. If you plan on spending $400 bones for a barrel or there about I would opt for the krieger. I have 8 of them them installed 2 waiting to get installed and two spares. I don't shoot anything else on service rifles anymore. The first one I installed was a 1/10 heavy contour CM on my garand. I liked the results so much I never looked at anything else on future builds. If the barrel is dialed in right and you front sight is centered, your rear sight will be deaden the middle and all you have to do is come up to zero they are that straight.
The measurement from breech to muzzle indicates bore taper , not concentricity. Concentricity is the relationship between the theoretical centerline of the I.D and the O.D of the barrel.

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Old March 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #11
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I've shot through 5 Barnetts with very satisfying results shooting XTC. Lots of X's. Number 6 and 7 are on guns now but operator eyesight is now the biggest hinderence.

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