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Old April 24th, 2017, 02:39 PM   #1
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Trying to get the new stock to help with accuracy.

I got one of the Promag Precision stocks and it fits really tight but I could get it together without any sanding etc. My first problem was the muzzle rise that I also had with the SA heavy walnut stock. I installed one of those Coast Guard muzzle brakes (Good Iron) and hope that will help some. Do these brakes help with the muzzle rise?

Also checked that front ferrule and noticed there was a scuff at the bottom dead center and decided to make some clearance so it doesn't touch the gas block. Is this the normal thing to do with that front ferrule?

My first time out with the new stock it was not seated in with shooting and I had a freaking 30mph cross wind with gusts that would not allow me to really see if the new stock would help. I hope the brake and the clearance around the gas block will help me.

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Old April 24th, 2017, 02:43 PM   #2
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Put some grease on the ferrule where it touches the band.

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You'll find that brake works very well to control rise and felt recoil.

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Old April 25th, 2017, 03:55 AM   #4
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You'll find that brake works very well to control rise and felt recoil.

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Thanks! I was hoping it would cut down on the muzzle rise. Now I just need to test it.

The other problem with the gas block touching the front ferrule may be fixed now. I followed the information found here: http://www.firearmsnews.com/gunsmith...modifications/
I'm not sure yet if I took enough off for clearance but I'll check the area under the gas block again after my time at the range.

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The compensator part of the Coast Guard will help control muzzle rise, but the standard method is by slinging up tight.

What type of rifle do you have and what is your goal?

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The compensator part of the Coast Guard will help control muzzle rise, but the standard method is by slinging up tight.

What type of rifle do you have and what is your goal?
My rifle is the standard "Loaded" version I bought about 20+ years ago and am just now shooting it. I just added the Promag precision stock since it has an adjustable cheek rest and butt plate -- I also like the pistol grip. I am a bit handicapped and just shoot at the range off a bipod but no rear bag. I could put a sling on the rifle but didn't see the need since I shoot on a bench with the bipod. I can't do any high power shooting -- kneeling, prone and maybe standing might be a bit comical to watch due to some minor physical problems. I saved the original heavy walnut stock because it is a beautiful piece of wood and didn't want to screw with it. I could shot fairly well with the wood stock off the bipod but the lack of a cheek rest for scope use made it difficult but not impossible.


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My rifle is the standard "Loaded" version I bought about 20+ years ago and am just now shooting it. I am a bit handicapped and just shoot at the range off a bipod but no rear bag. I could put a sling on the rifle but didn't see the need since I shoot of a bench with the bipod.
How is the bipod attached to the rifle? The stock rail, sling swivel or gas cylinder?


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How is the bipod attached to the rifle? The stock rail, sling swivel or gas cylinder?
For the Promag stock, that I'm using now, it's attached on the rail that comes with the stock. Originally, for the heavy wood stock, I got one of those kits that replaced the front sling swivel and mount and attached a sling swivel that could take the bipod directly. The setup I have now with the Promag Archangel stock and the rail seems to be more solid.

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When using a bipod, you can control bounce/muzzle rise by:

1. Putting a small piece of carpet on the bench, under the bipod legs.

2. Attach a sling. If unable to sling up with your arm, you can simply pull down and rearward using your hand, as if it were a pistol grip. In your case, you may have to attach the sling to the rail with some sort of adapter, unless it can attach directly to the bipod like the USGI M2.

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When using a bipod, you can control bounce/muzzle rise by:

1. Putting a small piece of carpet on the bench, under the bipod legs.

2. Attach a sling. If unable to sling up with your arm, you can simply pull down and rearward using your hand, as if it were a pistol grip. In your case, you may have to attach the sling to the rail with some sort of adapter, unless it can attach directly to the bipod like the USGI M2.
I'll try attaching a sling to the bipod -- it has a provision for a sling swivel. I could also try a short section of sling from that sling swivel and use it as a pistol grip.

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I'll try attaching a sling to the bipod -- it has a provision for a sling swivel. I could also try a short section of sling from that sling swivel and use it as a pistol grip.
Read up on how the M14E2 sling was used to control muzzle rise. It is believed to have added 35 lbs of downward pressure when installed and used properly.

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Read up on how the M14E2 sling was used to control muzzle rise. It is believed to have added 35 lbs of downward pressure when installed and used properly.
Since I shoot only off a bench I found the loop sling setup and did that on my rifle. Really holds the rifle sold on my shoulder without having to pull back on the stock to keep it tight in place. I'l get a chance to test everything next weekend to see how the brake works and how well the sling works.

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