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Old September 25th, 2016, 06:23 PM   #1
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Federal XM80C accuracy

I went to the range today and shot my NM M1A using Federal XM80c ammo.
it is a 149 grain FMJ bullet but I do no know the velocity.
The ammo shot very well with my rifle and with the iron sights I shot two 5 shot groups into about 2 MOA at 100 yards.
I believe I read somewhere that the original load for these "M-14" type rifles was a 149 grain bullet. Is that correct?

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Old September 25th, 2016, 06:51 PM   #2
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That's good to hear considering I've stockpile a load of this ammo for the rainy day.


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That's good to hear considering I've stockpile a load of this ammo for the rainy day.
I've gotten 2.2MOA for 10-shot groups out of my scout so you're gtg.


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I've had great luck with that stuff as well, previously with my M1A and now the LRB; both love it.

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Never happened,

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Old September 26th, 2016, 01:52 PM   #7
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I have had fair to good results with m80 too, but I did not measure groups. I will guess the groups were between 7''-10'' on average at 425yards.

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Never happened, no pics.
Bottom group on the right. Stray shot at the bottom isn't part of that group.


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I went to the range today and shot my NM M1A using Federal XM80c ammo.
it is a 149 grain FMJ bullet but I do no know the velocity.
The ammo shot very well with my rifle and with the iron sights I shot two 5 shot groups into about 2 MOA at 100 yards.
I believe I read somewhere that the original load for these "M-14" type rifles was a 149 grain bullet. Is that correct?

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M80 Ball uses a 147 grain (nominal) FMJ-BT lead core projectile (there are two types of projectiles, gilding metal jacketed [8595669] and gilding metal clad steel jacketed [10522590], with the GM jacketed one being a smidgen longer than the other, but, they are the same weight).

M59 Ball and M61 AP, used a 150 grain FMJ-BT steel core projectile, M59 being mild steel.

M62 Tracer is 142 grains.

M118 Match was a 173 grain FMJ-BT.

M118 Long Range Special Ball is a Sierra 175 grain OTM.

M852 was a Sierra 168 grain OTM.

M993 is a 126 grain projectile with a tungsten core.

There was an experimental SLAP round with a saboted tungsten projectile, but that had problems with the flash hider.

There are a few others, but weren't that common.


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Old September 28th, 2016, 09:21 AM   #10
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Range report

I have attached the target from the range sesion with the Federal 149 grain XM80C load.
There are two distinct 5 shot groups which are separated by one click of my NM M1A rear sight. I was holding POA at the bottom of the black 7 ring

This rifle has been very accurate in past range sessions with FGMM 168 gr load. it does seem to like the XM80C load also.

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I need to try some XM80 through my M1A. I zero'ed it with ZQI but some of old Federal contract M80 ball (FC 61 headstamp) shot to the same POI as the Turk ball.

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I need to try some XM80 through my M1A. I zero'ed it with ZQI but some of old Federal contract M80 ball (FC 61 headstamp) shot to the same POI as the Turk ball.
Which is exactly what STANAG 2310 is for, to ensure that the performance is reasonably consistent across the board.

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Old October 2nd, 2016, 07:25 AM   #13
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Loaded model results

I shot the federal xm80c load in my 1997 M1A loaded model yesterday and it grouped much worse than the NM model rifle.
No point in posting targets since they were on the order of 4-5 MOA.

In the past both my NM and loaded model rifles shot fairly close with the NM beating the loaded model by only about 3/8 inch with 5 shot groups. But this was using the 168 grain FGMM. They booth like that load!!
I will post those targets when I locate them

I guess this result confirms the fact that some rifles like different loads

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Old January 10th, 2017, 04:56 PM   #14
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I bought some 04/05 LC XM80 when they were sold in 500 packs. They were very accurate in my bolt guns. Wish I have bought more at 30c/round back then!

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