Now Everyone Can be a SniperThis is a discussion on Now Everyone Can be a Sniper within the Accuracy forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Short video (1:36) on a new sighting system.
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November 25th, 2012, 12:30 AM
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#1 | | Old Salt
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November 25th, 2012, 01:44 AM
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#2 | | Lifer
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Thank God that shooting is only 1/10th of that job. Pretty soon though, it will be an online course and then there will probably be an app for that too... outsourcing being what it is these days.
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November 25th, 2012, 01:50 AM
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#3 | | Banned Camp
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There have been laser rangefinders for some time. This isn't especially different. As for "sniper," well, sure. If you only ever snipe stuff that isn't moving in a non-wind environment and other optimal circumstances.
I had actually looked at doing something like this (lower tech, and mostly for personal use), but gave it up because you can't calculate wind. I don't know of anything personally that can do the very complex calculations of wind to a target on a bullet that's losing velocity--without setting up flags and stuff on the way. Especially considering wind can gust and be 5mph one way, and 30 feet further, 5mph the opposite direction. It's not going to matter much if you're going for body shots at 100yards, but again, that's not very sniper-y.
Do I think technology will get there eventually? Sure. I'm just not sure conventional firearms are capable of it. If you think of our missiles and bombs, they are guided up to the point of impact.
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November 25th, 2012, 05:00 AM
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#4 | | Lifer
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There's a recent fictional book about such an advanced rifle-mounted system, "I, Sniper" by Stephen Hunter. I would imagine the comma in the title was to avoid a lawsuit from Apple. Anyway the technology gets a look through and doesn't seem more than a few years off.
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November 25th, 2012, 06:41 AM
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#5 | | Lifer |
Drone Snipers will soon replace Human Snipers...
CAVman in WYoming
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November 25th, 2012, 06:51 AM
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#6 | | Designated Marksman
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Originally Posted by CAVman Drone Snipers will soon replace Human Snipers...
CAVman in WYoming |
Drones are a much more challenging target, especially when using a bipod...
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November 25th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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#7 | | Automatic Rifleman
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Originally Posted by CAVman Drone Snipers will soon replace Human Snipers...
CAVman in WYoming | Howe and Howe tech made a remotely operated vehicle mounted m107
That was operated from inside the vehicle but its not a stretch to say mount one on a large RC car and control it a continent away.
I actually know a fellow who mounted a semi .22 to a large rc helicopter and used a live feed to shoot at things with so all the tech is there I'm surprised more people haven't taken advantage of it
Now if I saw a RC helo on my property with what might look like a gun strapped to it all my skeet and trap practice will be put to use  |
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November 25th, 2012, 07:45 AM
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#8 | | Lifer | Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Quangs Drones are a much more challenging target, especially when using a bipod... | funny...
But to (re-)coin a phrase:
You Will Never Hear The Drone That Kills You!
CAVman in WYoming
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November 25th, 2012, 08:19 AM
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#9 | | Old Salt
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There was a thread here some time ago where I suggested this exact process. I will be seeking a percentage!  Seriously though I don't know that this makes everyone a sniper. There is a lot more to their craft than hitting a stationary target from the bench.
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November 25th, 2012, 10:44 AM
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#10 | | Lifer
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Damn near every Marine embellisher I met was a sniper in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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November 25th, 2012, 10:50 AM
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#11 | | Lifer |
Maybe they can make a sniper badge, kind of like those CCW badges.
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November 25th, 2012, 10:53 AM
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#12 | | Lifer
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Originally Posted by GARRARD Maybe they can make a sniper badge, kind of like those CCW badges. | How do you spot a faker?
They have those badges.
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November 25th, 2012, 11:11 AM
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#13 | | Fire Team Leader
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It's easier to buy a gadget, than to actually learn HOW to shoot. Just saying!
Every time I'm at the range, 95%+ (easily) of shooters are sitting down at a table with their rifle on sandbags or bench rest. I guess there's nothing wrong with that, but last time I checked, there are no benches, chairs, or tables in the field.
Shooters need to learn the proper use of a sling, and how to shoot from unsupported positions (prone, sitting, kneeling, offhand).
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November 25th, 2012, 11:21 AM
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#14 | | Lifer |
To kind of go along with what CAresistance is saying, I do a lot of preliminary marksmanship instruction in the Army and what I've observed over the years, is that gadgetry is only an aid to those that are already good at shooting. You can give a guy that can't shoot worth a shit an ACOG but without the four fundamentals, he still won't hit a damn thing. But take a guy that shoots well and give him that ACOG, he'll shoot better.
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November 25th, 2012, 01:46 PM
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#15 | | Banned Camp
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Years ago Israel had been using robots. They stuck a shotgun on it. The point was to deal with suicide bombers. They want military/police to come near so they can blow them up. But if a robot is coming near, well, that's not nearly as valuable. In any case, I tried to find the link to it, but couldn't. It was at least a few years ago a Palestinian failed to blow his vest, they sent the robot, he popped him, and dragged him out of the building he was hiding in. It's not a sniper but...
That has kind of been my theory on American military/technology. You can't really keep anything secret for long. You could probably google just about all our schematics for our jets. The deal is, most countries, even if they had that data, couldn't put it together as it's too expensive for them. If we have a $ advantage, you can afford to drop $30,000 bombs and fly multi-million dollar jets. I don't care if you got a million people in your army, you eventually get pretty depressed when all you're doing is killing robots/drones.
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