M14 Forum

DukeRustfield · October 8th, 2011, 04:44 PM

I know there are copious bipod threads, but I wanted to specifically ask about LRBs. I currently have a Harris and a generic mount. The mount wiggles a little on the rail. Which is one reason I don't like it. The harris bipod is plastic and it wiggles a little on the mount and the legs, when I extend them, flex a tiny bit.

Which made me to post the huge thread on sandbags. Well, I found I have to prop them up very high to be comfortable. So I'm looking at some higher-end bipods.

Has anyone had any experience with the GG&G? I'm hoping the aluminum will cause no flex. And I'm concerned about the mount tightness. Also, I like the fact it has flat feet, which provides more surface area and hopefully less recoil (or ability to lessen it, anyway). Harris has those curved feet, which might be great for taking your rifle in various terrains, but I'm never going to do that.

Any info is appreciated.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CCAQ8wIwAQ

82nd ABN · October 8th, 2011, 05:08 PM

I have three Harris bipods none of them have curved feet or any plastic. Are you sure you don't have a harris clone?

CAVman · October 8th, 2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeRustfield

I know there are copious bipod threads, but I wanted to specifically ask about LRBs. I currently have a Harris and a generic mount. The mount wiggles a little on the rail. Which is one reason I don't like it. The harris bipod is plastic and it wiggles a little on the mount and the legs, when I extend them, flex a tiny bit.

Which made me to post the huge thread on sandbags. Well, I found I have to prop them up very high to be comfortable. So I'm looking at some higher-end bipods.

Has anyone had any experience with the GG&G? I'm hoping the aluminum will cause no flex. And I'm concerned about the mount tightness. Also, I like the fact it has flat feet, which provides more surface area and hopefully less recoil (or ability to lessen it, anyway). Harris has those curved feet, which might be great for taking your rifle in various terrains, but I'm never going to do that.

Any info is appreciated.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CCAQ8wIwAQ

I went with the #1245...
Extra Heavy Duty Extreme Heavy Duty Extreme...

(Don't Ask Me How They Come Up With All That!

)

I have several Harris's...Also the Swiveling Models...

BUT...The GG&G...is like a....Special Ops/Delta Force/Ninja Model!

You just kind of hold it and unfold it and re-fold it and say....Holy Bat Guano!
I could use this thing as a Billy Club if needed!

I mounted it on my Socom 16...showed it to my friend who was more recently than I, an Armorer with the Army in Iraq...
His response was similar, but more 'scatological' than mine...

I doubt you can find one in a 'store' to handle...but if you want an endorsement as to it's quality, strength and design...I'll give it a 10 on a scale of 1-10!

Just My Opinion...

CAVman in WYoming

tonyben · October 8th, 2011, 06:07 PM

I've handled a couple (GGG's) that belong to leadbug. They are stout to say the least but you pay for it in weight. I am sure the Harris is good but the GGG is just impressive.

DukeRustfield · October 8th, 2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 82nd ABN

I have three Harris bipods none of them have curved feet or any plastic. Are you sure you don't have a barrels clone?

Every single one of these is curved.
http://www.google.com/#q=harris+bipo...w=1360&bih=653

Maybe we're just thinking of different things. But you're right, mine is all metal. I had to feel it. But when extended, just using my pinky, I can get that thing to flex backward maybe 1/4". My gun is already super heavy. And I'm not light. And I have to extend the legs because I'm tall. In a normal shooting situation, it's easily going to flex more than that, which makes it especially stable as far as I'm concerned.

Am I just being unrealistic? Are all bipods going to flex? Or flex that much?

TheTinMan · October 8th, 2011, 08:45 PM

+1 on the GG&G bipod. Easy operation & built like a tank. I like their mounting rail too, but be aware that the holes are threaded so you have to put bolts/screws in from the inside of the forend.

82nd ABN · October 8th, 2011, 09:43 PM

I think your right, we were thinking about two different things. I thought you meant the feet were similar to the ones on an M2 GI style. I can't speak about the atlas or gg&g never owned one. Seems as though the gg&g is pretty popular with the fellas.
As far as flex, I always thought you were supposed to preload the bipod by leaning into it. Personally I don't do this. I never really noticed any flex but I don't doubt you at all. If I have one complaint about the Harris it is the fact that the tightening nut comes loose and needs frequent snugging up. I plan on drilling a small hole on the outer edge of the tightening thumb nut and then another on the frame. I will then use an aviation safety plier and stainless steel wire to lock it in place. I also want to buy one of those pod locks and give it a try. I have a couple that swivel and I find myself using the pods with a high tension on the swivel feature. A friend of mine was going to let me borrow his atlas, I guess I should have taken him up on the offer. There is a gent with a wtb ad in the bx, I have been trying to get hold of my friend to put the two together. Guess I will never get the oppurtunity to check that atlas out. It seems as though several members have used all three, atlas gg&g and Harris. We are fortunate to be able to hear there opinions. For me the affordable costs of the Harris is what's attractive. I only use the pods on scoped rifles and right now only 1 of four that use scopes actually have one mounted. Wish I could be more help but as I said I have limited experience. One of these days I plan on trying my GI M2 set up just to say I used the dam thing once. Have two of them and never used either. Seems like a waste of money other than the collector standpoint. Had to have one to go with the E2 stock. It would be like having peanut butter without the jelly

leadbug · October 8th, 2011, 10:14 PM

I have two GG & G Extreme Heavy-Duty Swivel bipods, and I think they are of incredibly high quality.

You have to handle them to really appreciate them. They are as stiff as you would want them to be. Not cheap though.

The GG & G does NOT come loose whatsoever. It is one of those pieces of equipment that you just know is not going to fail you.

nf1e@snet.net · October 9th, 2011, 02:57 AM

I use the GG&G bipod on an LRB M-25 with Heavy Kreiger SS barrel.
This is in a JAE stock so added weight is not noticable. Great bipod.I have used the Harris bipods over the years. If you want a rock solid mount for your artillery, GGG is the one. If you want something light and not so solid then Harris will work.
Semper Fi
Art

DukeRustfield · October 9th, 2011, 12:52 PM

That's exactly what I have, a LRB M25 with a heavy Krieger, titanium inserts, a scope about the size of the rifle, NM parts, etc. So there's tremendous flex on the bipod from all that weight. And as 82 said, the harris thumb nut regularly needs to be retightened. I mean even after a few shots.

What I really didn't like, and I've posted this before, was having to lean into the bipod and twist it slightly to be taught on the rail adapter. That's a lot of movement that isn't associated with the actual aiming IMHO. Also, I'm using a fairly high-power scope, usually sitting around 14X magnification, so all that flexing and twisting and whatever is very very noticeable. If I cranked it up to 32X I can actually see myself practically jump up off the freaking target.

adrbe · October 9th, 2011, 01:03 PM

I have an Atlas and it's really nice. Very sturdy, and the ability to position the legs at 45 degrees is quite useful when the 90 degree position is too high. I would highly recommend it. The only downside is the weight: 12 oz. They are currently in stock at milehighshooting.com

Hamstur · October 10th, 2011, 09:47 PM

+1 on the Atlas. I replaced my Harris recently with one, and it's really nice. It has a natural 15 degree swivel ball design and feels more natural than the Harris, which felt 'stiff' to me. The 45 degree forward lock is great in prone.

The downside of the Atlas is price ($289) and it's not lightning quick to deploy like the Harris.

DukeRustfield · October 21st, 2011, 08:33 AM

Read on Sniper's Hide that Atlas is coming out with a next gen bipod soon(ish).

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=2844627

valken · November 25th, 2011, 11:31 AM

Harris with plastic? curved? I have owned at least 10 over the years and never heard of or seen anything Harris with a plastic part or curves. I have found them to be solid dependable products and never felt a need for any other by-pod. There are two LRB receivers that have Harris on them in my stable. Check your by-pod it doesn't sound like a Harris is what you have

TheTurtle · November 25th, 2011, 11:43 AM

I think I remember seeing different interchangeable feet for the Harris's, but not 100% sure, might be for another bipod out there. I like mine but I don't lean into it and mine usually goes quite a ways before it shoots loose, but I take it off and on very frequently so it's not a big deal for me.

I'd go with the GG&G, and if that's not enough then you might just need a classic M2 Tripod to help you support that piece of lead spitting artillery you've got.