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Old September 23rd, 2011, 05:52 PM   #31
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What range was this?
It was 500. Thanks for the heads up.

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Old September 23rd, 2011, 07:38 PM   #32
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(2) Use of a rifle range referred to in paragraph (1) by
civilians may not interfere with the use of those ranges by members
of the armed forces.
That's always their out.

Here is a shorter version that includes all the amendments without the legalese.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/us...9----000-.html

But the short of it is, if it's on a military base, if it was constructed by the US, and it doesn't interfere with the military that you're there, you should be able to use it.


I was pretty damn sure police didn't have to let you, but I'm still surprised at this and it's a good find. There's military bases all around here, but I don't think they got any ranges. Maybe indoor pistol.

Thanks for looking it up.

I just did a search on Camp Pendleton:
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Frequently Asked Questions
Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton has been directed to implement policies that focus on the access control procedures for visitors. Camp Pendleton has, and is improving steps to address unauthorized access to the base and the protection of forces, residents and civilian employees. These policies are intended to help Marines accomplish the mission and keep families aboard Camp Pendleton safe.

Who is allowed aboard Camp Pendleton?
• Department of Defense affiliates and/or their authorized family members
• Authorized individuals or groups who desire to conduct business
• Representatives of religious organizations wishing to conduct activities
• Employees working and students attending internal schools and colleges
• Authorized civilians who provide for Exceptional Family Members
• Authorized civilians who volunteer with on-base agencies
• Authorized official guests of a military member or command
• Authorized visitors desiring access for non-work related activities with a sponsor
That doesn't sound like anyone can just walk on. And I could find no references to any of their ranges being open to the public except on special events/competitions.


BUT, my longest "accurate" shot was 300 at silloughettes. I haven't tried putting targets out that far, mostly because the access road is kind of out of the way and everyone would have to wait for me (and I'm afraid I'd just miss and waste my time).

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Old September 23rd, 2011, 07:59 PM   #33
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I just did a search on Camp Pendleton:

That doesn't sound like anyone can just walk on. And I could find no references to any of their ranges being open to the public except on special events/competitions.

The way Pendleton deals with that is they have an agreement with the Santa Margarita Gun Club based in the local town. The gun club is authorized to use Wilcox Range on weekends for practice and matches (subject to scheduling conflicts.)

They also have a special zone for deer hunting on base, and allow wacky things like bike riders to transit the base all the way from Oceanside to San Clemente as long as they stick to the main road.

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Old September 23rd, 2011, 08:00 PM   #34
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I have shot out to 1,000 yards. Not always with great results............lol. But at 800 I am pretty consistant.

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Old September 23rd, 2011, 10:57 PM   #35
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The best confirmed shot I made was near Tam Key[not sure of the spelling] in Nam. It was 1240 meter's fired with a NM M14 with a Weaver 4x scope and firing national match ammo. I will admit it was mostly luck with the nva guy running. I used a lot of kentucky windage and the round seemed like it took forever to get there. It took so long I was getting ready to try another shot when the guy went down. It was a middle body shot hitting 3 inche's from the heart.
Needless to say I told the guy's it was a easy shot and I could do them all day.
I was really surprised I hit him. I didn't even want to try the shot with him running but the Lt. told me to take it.
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Old September 24th, 2011, 06:36 AM   #36
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The best confirmed shot I made was near Tam Key[not sure of the spelling] in Nam.

Damn fine shot! I was in Tam Ky a lot in 66-67. When were you in country?

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We had been on patrol for about 10 day's when we came up on an ARVN unit on the trail. They had a ARVN shooting at this running NVA with a BAR.
I watched him take about 5 or 6 shot's and couldn't see where the round's were hitting when the LT. came up and told me to take him out.
Like I said the shot was all luck and I really didn't want to take it.
By the way. Fort Sill will let you shoot on there range's if you are a veteren on the day's when the range isn't being used by the trainee's.
The only problem is the hoop's you have to jump though to bring a weapon on post.
I was going to try to do it untill I found out about the red tape.It just isn't worth it.
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My first tour was with B 1/46 198 LIB America Div from jan 68 till dec 24 69
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Old September 25th, 2011, 12:40 AM   #41
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525 with irons. It was one of my Soldier's issued M14 at Denali Training Area, outside of Fort Wainwright, Alaska.

200 with a M1 Garand. It was at a range outside of San Diego, CA.

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Maybe they did in the 50's or something, but they sure as hell aren't now. And pardon, but it sounds like a lot of hooey. Forward a link to a government site listing that law.


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But the short of it is, if it's on a military base, if it was constructed by the US, and it doesn't interfere with the military that you're there, you should be able to use it.

is this what passes for an apology now days ?

people, wake up. if your local law enforcement hands you all that garbage about this and that for reasons you may not use facilities that your tax dollars paid for, vote their ass out of office. they work for you. tell your officials they will be voted out of office if they fail to comply with request.
you will see "your" ranges opened up everywhere. as for leo receiving federal monies, which will put them under adherence to this law, if they so much as got computer paper funded through government, or paper clips, or a computer, fuel allowance or break on fuel cost from government subs, or one round of ammo for the department through federal monies, they must allow you use of the range. like i said, talk to a lawyer and sue their ass. i know this can be done because i did it and won. i proved they received federal money and tasked them to do the right thing. they lied, they yelled and even harassed me and my family. some law enforcement huh ? protect and serve, and not do a darn thing right unless it benefits them.

sorry for off topic OP, but threads do have a flow. not my intention to crash your party. it just makes me mad when "our employees" try to run over my fellow citizens, and get away with it because of ignorance to the laws of this once great nation.

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Old September 25th, 2011, 08:50 AM   #43
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Was over on the north shore of Vancouver, B.C.,, and the range was developed, I believe, during WW-II as a military practice & training range. It was used through the '60s (when I was able to access it), but has since been engulfed by tract housing and condominiumz.... yukko!

Anyhow, I was on the Canuck Army's Long Range Shooting Team, and we shot for the DCRA (Dominion of Canada Rifle Assoc.) annual shoot, and I did pretty good (second in Canada! Huzzah!)

(Question though: where DID that eyesight resolution and steel-steady nerves & muscles go? I want them back, and I want them NOW!).

Anyhow, we were shooting some Parker-Hale modified Lee-Enfields chambered in the ever-gracious .303 Brit (tho' perhaps it was match-grade ammo, I dunno...), and I laid 10 shots into 42" @ that 1000 meters. With, I'll add: Iron Sights! (Given the rifle's ancestry, they probably were actually Iron, as in Fe, hammered up on a blacksmith's anvil in merry ewlde Eastern Canada!!)

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Lee-E...1t:429,r:1,s:0

Most recently, I shot some 750 yd stuff. I used my M1A NM, and hit the 48" paper target twice during our sighting-in efforts, but nothin' formal or consistent. I'm going to set up my Leupold RX-IV rangefinder with all it's bells & whistles to determine the drop numbers in MoA for that range, and I may have to mount my Looey Mk4 6.5 - 20 with the TMR reticle onto "Lucy" to see what'll-she-do. I particularly like that Leupold's TM Reticle has nothing in the center of the reticle to cover your intended target out at those extreme ranges.

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1200 meters (measured) on E target with 175 gr MK loads using varget powder at 2600 fps. Fulton Match M1A with Redfield 3x9 AccuTrac and got right at 70% hits. Shot many a 1000 yard service rifle match with iron sights with M118 white box and reloads with 175 and 180 gr MK reloads.

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Old September 25th, 2011, 09:56 AM   #45
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It was a standard 1-12" but no one said they were key holing [but they might have.] I assume they were still hitting head first.

Major Stuph,

Sorry, I assumed they started to keyhole when you said they became unstable at 900yrds, but I guess a 1:10 twist would be better for that round at that distance.



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